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Hatchling

by CoopBro

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Date Published

Feb. 19, 2016

Date Built

Dec. 25, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

4.551 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

40.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

60.0° C

Description

Hatchling

Why the name?

I really like dragons and I though the naming scheme would be a nice way to show the progression of my PC, and a dragon is a good metaphor for how beastly powerful my PC is. Hatchling is just a brand new dragon, new to the PC gaming world, it grows fast with a new GPU and PSU to become a Young Dragon, and finally becomes a full on beast called___ by upgrading __

Why and how I got this

I have saved for this for about 3 years, all my money for my birthday, Christmas, and money I earned by doing extra chores. I did a crap job with the budgeting because it was fluctuating often, and I bought many parts early when I was on a tight budget, leading me to get some pretty nice components for upgrading once I got a lot more. You live and learn, at least most the parts I got from the start were high quality with little to worry about.

How it performs

This build runs pretty well, the integrated graphics do tend to struggle occasionally. I can typically run several programs at once with little issue, unless I am doing a very intense game like Overwatch, then I need to be weary of the 8 gigs, which is why I upgraded to 16, and now I have no worries.

Problems while building

The only problem I had when building I got a RAM error (thanks to my motherboard debug LED I could figure that out immediately) so I just took it out, blew on it, and put it back in, and it worked! The process was pretty easy, the H440 is a good quality case!

Due to my GPU's drivers being so outdated I was forced onto using integrated graphics if I want to play games such as Overwatch, I also decided to buy an extra stick of RAM because I was occasionally crashing because I had too little. I can just simply restart (it's quick too because of the SSD) and enter the BIOS and set initial video output to be the iGPU or PCI-E slot 1 and swap between the two when necessary.

Overclocking

I do not plan to overclock yet, because it is so highly unrecommended because of this PSU I chose, but once I get a new one I will do that and see what I can do.

EDIT: After getting a quality PSU I managed a (102.23 BLCK and 45 core clock) 4.551 GHz OC on 1.38V stable, seeing some marginal performance gains, temps never above 60, idle around 40

Modding

I painted the vents at the top red by unscrewing them and paint them, I started with taping off the screw holes, then I taped off most of the back section of the back vent (so I don't see it) and painted it red, then seeing how I liked it I decided it was too dark, so I uncovered a little more covered it with white primer, then 2 coats of red and really liked it, so I did that with the rest and I love the results

I painted parts of the black on the lids red, and I am fairly satisfied with the result. I might do a logo or something on the windowed panel, but I doubt it

If you have any questions please feel free to ask!

Here is what I plan to do in 2016 and here in an idea in 2017

Part Reviews

CPU

It does pretty well, overclocking helps. It can run AAA games well, but with a card that is meant for 4k running at 1080p the resolution and CPU become a bottleneck. It handles applications like PS and Solidworks very well.

I wanted to go for the i7, but I see now that I have no need for it now.

It seems I didn't get too great a chip I can only manage, 4.551 GHz on 1.8 V. It does help quite a bit with my GPU capable of 4k running with a measly 1080p and the CPU/resolution becoming a slight bottle neck. Trying to get any higher requires the voltage to be bumped too high for my tastes

CPU Cooler

Very cool and quiet cooler, the installation was pretty easy, except for that I got the screws backwards, I realized this after about 5 minutes of struggling

The warranty card is pretty neat too

The thermal paste is pretty decent so far

It keeps my i5 6600k at 4.551 GHz on 1.8 V and keeps it at around 60 under usual high loads, it is audible, but hardly noticeable woth headphones

Motherboard

Awesome motherboard! I like that the debug LED helped me figure out what was wrong when building (I had to reinstall the RAM) and it was fine after that.

It looks really sweet, but the colors aren't that common, so I have modded my case to match it (a little) and it has plenty of connectors for my needs, almost too many wishing I had gone with a MATX mobo, would suit me just fine.

Tip: Go to Gigabyte's website and download the app center for 170 chipsets and install system viewer and the one where you can edit the LED without needing to go into the BIOS, as well as anything else that you may want, who knows if you may need it. There is also the overclocking utility that allows you to adjust BLCK, core multiplier, and voltage without needing to enter the BIOS and restart.

-1 star because the tab on the first PCI-E slot is broken, you have to pry the card so hard to pop out the tab to get it out of the slot, it's really nerve racking, good thing I don't have to do it much

Memory

I does what it needs to. I wanted to upgrade, so I got a second stick. I am also able to overclock the two DIMMs I have to at least 2666 with no problems. Having 16 gigs is really nice I have 500mb dedicated to a RAM Disk and 1 GB as a cache for RAPID mode for my SSD. I never need more than 8 gigs normally anyways

Storage

It's a really fast SSD and boot and load times are amazingly fast, I am very glad I got this SSD because I often shut down my PC during school and when I'm away.

Having 16 gigs of RAM helps, you can enable Turbo Mode, it takes a gig lf RAM and uses it as a fast Cache (similar to Intel's Optane) and you can see speeds far above SATA, it just doesn't help withboting since it activates 1 minute after logging in. If your system needs RAM it does take from the Cache.

Storage

Works great, I can barely hear it once in awhile and things are pretty fast to respond and load, great for what I paid for

Case

Pretty awesome case, I will start with the bad, the side panel window scratches fairly easily and the foam on the side panel is a pain in the butt to get on with even good cable management

On the other hand it is very quiet and looks pretty snazzy, I did some modding and it looks pretty sick. The cable management is pretty decent and there are appropriate rubber grommets.

I would rathee go with a more recent case, the 'silence' is mostly useless since there is a plastic window. It is heavier and bigger than needed, and there is a drive cage

Power Supply

Good for the price, it works for the budget I was in when I bought this and it worked, but it isn't that great of quality as I have been told by many of the forumers

Operating System

It's a good OS, not really much to complain about. It has a lot of features I don't want though and sometimes finding where something is can prove to be pretty hard for some reason. With the anniversary update I now can get notifications that are on my phone to show on my PC, which is really nice

Monitor

Pretty nice panel, the 144 hz is totally worth the extra money because games are as smooth as butter and look really nice

I do not like the mount, you are very limited on your options for mounting, I wish it was taller, but the fact that you can change the angle is okay

The inputs are pretty good and I have some decent options, and the menu and navigation is pretty average

Mouse

The mouse is decent and the design is pretty ergonomic and fits my large hands okay. I noticed that recently it has gotten too small for my 8" by 4" (20 cm by 10cm) hands and I now naturally use a claw grip, despite finding palm more comfortable normally, which in the few contact points I make have become slick due to the coating wearing and becoming smooth.

A complain lies with the total lack of customizing of the lighting, you only have spectrum or static for the wheel, or spectrum, static, or breathing with the logo, very disappointing how limited your options are.

After owning this mouse for about 8 months the right click is starting to wear out and it feels like a membrane switch instead of the clicky tactile feel it's supposed to. I had to RMA for a new one.

The RMA process was fairly easy and decently fast, new mouse is fine so fat

Headphones

Good for the price that I got them

I got these with a rebate at Micro Center for $15 total, which is pretty good

I am not an audiophile, but they do sound pretty decent, except for when in virtual 7.1 surround sound mode, then everything is really echo-y and hollow, and there is almost no difference between virtual and stereo. The mic is pretty good (or as I have been told by my friends on Skype and Discord who I chat with for a few hours a day after school)

A problem I have is mostly because the software doesn't save the 'I want 7.1 on' when I shut down, so it is too bothersome to open the software every time and turn it on, even though it isn't worth it because of how weird it sounds

These headphones are almost too large for me, the gamer-y aesthetics looks ridiculous and make them fairly uncomfortable after 2 hours or so of gaming because there is a lot of pressure on the headband, and my ears rub against the inside of the headphones, causing irritation, wearing a winter hat helps, but then it gets hot, which brings me to another point the leather ear cups need to breathe every half hour to avoid too much discomfort.

After about 6 months the cord has become terribly tangled on itself, it is twisted an a nightmare to try and manage, almost want wireless now.

After about a year the right ear cup no longer works, and the cable is becoming atrocious. I RMA'd it for a new headset, fairly fast and very pain free

Overall the headset is pretty decent for a budget, the extra add ons like a inline controller and virtual 7.1 is neat at this price point

Speakers

I honestly never use these, the only times I have they sounded decent for the price, that is all I can say.

Comments Sorted by:

eeem1214 1 Build 8 points 38 months ago

Wouldn't the integrated graphics of the 6600k be better than a 9800 gt

propuzoficj 2 points 38 months ago

I believe so. I hope he's just using it for now until Pascal or something, because that GPU just does not hold up today.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

It is just to have something until Pascal/Polaris, and it does pretty well in most games I play at low settings.

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build -1 points 38 months ago

yeah that GPU was used for the first polygon games. 0.0 integrated graphics OCed on a skylake CPU are WAYYY better. I do recommend a Nvidia Pascals GPU When they release instead of a r9 390. AMD gpus dont stack up. they have less features

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I am anticipating the release and can hardly wait!

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CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

The only way I can get the glorious 144 hz is through DVI right now, so to me it is worth it

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I compared the two using Unigine Heaven and they were almost the same, I can try Valley later, but they are really close in performance

eeem1214 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

Those are synthetic and run better through the pci slots

Also i dont think that the 9800 gt knows or can even run 144hz so you be actually be seeing 100hz

Shocktonix 1 point 38 months ago
CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I actually benchmarked them and got a slightly better score with the 9800 GT, also the only way I can get 144 hz is through the DVI port

TechyinAZ 14 Builds 3 points 38 months ago

Plus, you only have one stick of RAM, which means your running in single channel mode. That lone will hamper the IGPUs performance.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I feel that might not have such a large effect

BigAll 5 Builds 3 points 38 months ago

Actually, optimizing your memory configuration can give you a decent boost when using onboard graphics, the less your cpu and gpu have to fight over memory the better. And the better the onboard graphics are the easier it is to give it a memory bottleneck.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Interesting, unfortunately I bought the single channel kit before I knew that dual channel had some benefits

trimi 1 Build 3 points 38 months ago

Run from the PSU run now

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Hahaha, wish I had waited to buy it, but the deal was way too good at the time, so I bought it and didnt want to waste the money, so I stuck with it.

isaac.w.clough 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

We have very similar ideas for what we want to do with our builds. I have the H440 and I was going to plasti-dip the black parts red and get your MB and an i5-6600k, the white and red combo just looks so good. +1 for Hue+ and similar build ideas. Great build brother

Jhobbster 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

PLEASE USE SPRAY PAINT! The plasti dip is messy and doesn't look or last very well very long.

isaac.w.clough 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I will do that. My girlfriend suggested the same thing.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

Great minds think alike

Jhobbster 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Lol alrighty then.

toplaygame 2 points 38 months ago

Good job bro!! And for those who cryin about his psu and gpu buy him one :P Peace out

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Ahaha thanks ;) it's not like I am ignorant (or at least now) and I have plans on replacing the parts this year

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

OMG 9800gt FTW +1 beautiful old tech

joshzpants 3 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

+1 just because my 9800 gt died last week :P

and because the build looks nice

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Thanks ;)

ConiferousJelly 2 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

The GPU might not be the best performing by far... however only taking up 1 expansion slot lookes friggin fantastic, like really makes it look so cool. +1 cus everything is kewl

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

That is true, without the card all the expansion slots look lonely

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

Nice looking build. NZXT makes some sweet cases

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Thanks! They do make some nice cases as well as Phanteks

Zonther 3 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

Very nice build! I used to have the 9800gtx till the fan sensor went haywire and made the fan run at 100% all the time but the gpu never broke 40C lol. Now I have a gtx 770 might keep that till something happens to it or sell my old rig with the card and get a r9 390 unless the next generation of gpu are out or going to come out in April or June.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

The next gen is coming mid summer (April or June maybe) and there are a lot of promising in improvements, so wait to buy a new one

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 2 points 35 months ago

Very nice, but subtle, mods to the case.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 35 months ago

Thanks, I am going to add a logo or something of a dragon somewhere on the windowed panel that wraps to the front

KSIMauser 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

What type of desk are you using? I really like it

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

A used one :I Got it for $20

KSIMauser 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

Nice

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Same with the chair, I got them instead of a $100 GPU, they're pretty nice I must say for what I payed

thatguy11m 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

So essentially if I'm planning to get the an 8GB (1x8) RAM, I can always upgrade to 16GB (2x8) RAM by purchasing the exact same stick/

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Yep, it's a large advantage of getting just 1x8, you can upgrade a lot more later, although 32 gigs is excessive

But with only 2 dimm slots it's almost essential for a 1x8 stick

MateoS 1 point 38 months ago

Thats great man it looks really clean, and I'm so glad you are aware of how poor the psu is and the impossibility to overclock could have been tragic. But everything else is top notch quality so when u change that psu and get a good gpu... Top Gaming Rig incoming!. H440 still does some of THE best builds out there

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Thanks! I wanted to make sure it did, I have some photos on my phone of the cable management that i have yet to put on, ut I wanted to make sure I did a good job.

I do like it a good amount, the padding on the non windowed side panel can be annoying and the window scratches pretty easily, but other than that it is pretty solid

Atron 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Yeah, definitiely prioritize the GPU and PSU. Though once upon an time that GPU was a gem

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

XD it was

breakerion 2 Builds 1 point 38 months ago

Nice, I like it overall, just wish you can soon afford another memory stick to be able to dual channel and maybe the GPU upgrade since that model seems so old and limited with 1GB, Enjoy and welcome to the PCMasterRace! :D

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

In 2017 I have plans on possibly getting some dual channel Trident Z, those look so cool

PCMR

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 38 months ago

I had a game that did not support Intel graphics and you had to have nvidia 7200 so even the CPU is better it may not support all the software that GPU can like tarin simulator 2010 had through it a way because I wasn't using nvidia and CPU was plenty powerful for it but would crash all the time

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Hmm... interesting. I haven't had a problem with graphics yet, so I am sticking with the GPU because of the refresh rate

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 38 months ago

The game had should have worked on the PC I was going to run it because it had compatible checker to tell you but it still didn't work and I have trouble with Intel graphics never with AMD

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Interesting

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

Going back and revisiting comments on my build, hello again!

I will say the 9800 GT has served me quite well for it's time, I now have an EVGA 980 ti classified that I got for $366! These past couple days have been an experience

The one game I had a problem with was Overwatch, my drivers weren't supported, so I had to restart and swap to the iGPU every time.

PCIntake 1 point 38 months ago

At the rate of Hue+ being added PCPartPicker should really add it to their official part list, the LEDs look amazing, nice job!

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Thanks, adding some more shots soon

The orientation is pretty interesting: I zip tied one to the drive cage and put one where you latch the side window, the others are at the bottom and back, but they don't have that weird "you can see the LED" effect on the window, if you know what I mean

PCIntake 1 point 38 months ago

I know, I plan on adding that to my system and I hope it doesn't do that thingy where you can see the little brighter circles on the edges that are the LEDs

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Yeah that

They are worth the cost, the magnets could be stronger though, but the adhesive is really good

Wkjessee 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Nice looking build, and I wouldn't worry to much about the PSU. Review done by jonnyguru.com. From what I read of it, sounds like it might use some extra power, but over all it is "jonnyGURU recommended". If they like it i'd use it.

Jhobbster 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

DO NOT USE PLASTIDIP! It mag seen like a good idea but the second you scratch or rub it against something it starts tearing and it just looks horrible. Use spraypaint it will look better and last much longer.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

There might be some I can find... hopefully in a decent red

Jhobbster 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Yea red would look nice.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Originally I was going for Black and White, but then I saw that motherboard and instantly loved it, so it is going to be Red and White with some Black

Jhobbster 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Nice mate I hope it works out.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Thanks

soldier5637 5 Builds 1 point 38 months ago

That card isnt pushing crap in those games little lone 144 Hz. It doesnt have the power or the actual ability built into it. You are ACTUALLY better off using the CPU GPU as others have said. Otherwise a nice build.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I have tested it in many games that I play, the GPU can consistently get over 100 fps and performs about the same with my integrated graphics, so it is fine with me

personwhoknowshowtobuildstuff 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

A big thing with CS GO is that it favors intel and Nvidia over AMD, Not by a huge amount but still you can see the difference

PCNeewb 1 point 30 months ago

Looks dope but about the headset. Would you recommend the Raptors or no? If no what other headset should I get? They look nice but your reviews is pulling me towards not getting them. Plus they do seem a but big.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 30 months ago

So far, they're an okay headset on a really tight budget, but I've been told that the Logitech G230 and G430 are much better choices, and they do seem to be better overall

I overall don't recommend these if you can afford something better

They are very big, at the smallest setting I feel no clamp on my head

If you have any other questions feel free to ask!

PCNeewb 1 point 30 months ago

Thanks for responding I might send you link to my saved parts list for the pc I wanna build. If you want to let me know so you can recommend some changes and I'll see if I agree and I'll probaly get the logitech G230. Thanks.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 30 months ago

I would love to appraise your build, I often do it on the forums when bored

PCNeewb 1 point 30 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xbhMFd Just let me know what I should change or how I can improve it. Thanks!

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 30 months ago

I would recommend you get the latest generation of CPUs, which is Skylake and soon to be Kabylake, mostly for the newer chipset features such as M.2, but if you don't need that then Haswell is still very viable, the performance difference between the two is minimun. A draw back is upgrading your CPU will be very costly

Solid SSD choice, but will you need more storage?

The 960 is priced at $300 (for me) and that's a crazy price to pay, a 1060 is better for the same price

EVGA's NEX lineup is okay, but the G2 is better quality for a little more, Corsair also has their RMx series

Razer hasn't impressed me with their quality of their mice, had to RMA after a few months, and I'm sure similar will go for their keyboards. Corsair or Logitech has good options

MightyAlFred 3 Builds 0 points 38 months ago

For that gpu, unless you buy it now just wait for Polaris / Pascal, which are supposed to launch around this summer. It is expected that both nvidia and amd gpus in the 300-400 $ range will have performance around or slightly over the current top of the line (980Ti and Fury x). Still nothing concete has been seen, but I wouldn't buy an R9 390 right now.

Just my 2 cents :)

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

I did have plans to upgrade this year when Pascal or Polaris cane out (very excited), so I didn't bother with a graphics card and got the HUE + and some Steam games

liammc 2 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

Good build I like older parts I'm not all about new if I was I wouldn't like vhs, CRT tvs, CD so a++++++ job

nolanrules 3 Builds 0 points 38 months ago

Step 1: sell the 9800GT - $35 step 2: sell the H440 and get a cheaper case like the s340 step 3: sell the overly expensive MOBO and get a $100 z170 board step 4: buy a gtx 750Ti for $120 or an r9 380 for $200

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 2 points 38 months ago

That is a lot of trouble honestly, I am going to replace the PSU and GPU this year, so it isn't worth the trouble for a card that I will replace within a year.

smcgothboy 3 Builds -1 points 38 months ago

Considering what you have I think you have quite a bit of room to expand as you look like you've planned. Definetly upgrade that GPU especially if its noisey. Most people like MSI graphics cards for good performance so thats a good call for upgrading. I personally don't like AMD but if your stuck to a budget they can still be quite powerful.

CoopBro submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Once I realized I had a decent amount of money I heavily tried to make myself very future compatible, with a pretty sick motherboard, a super fast SSD, and a quality CPU cooler

I was looking into one with an AIO attached because of the really cool temps, and pretty quiet operations, but it depends on pricing and such. MSI was likely one of my first choices because of how cool it looks, how well it cools, and the shroud is easy to remove so I can paint it if I want to.

I am curious how AMD's latest Polaris will stack up, they are promising pretty low wattage, and some decent performance gains, but I am leaning a little towards NVIDIA so I don't have to spend as much on a higher wattage PSU so I can put a little extra in the GPU.