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The HTPC and Server

by CommunistNinja

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Date Published

Jan. 11, 2016

Date Built

Oct. 1, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

4 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

25.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

35.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.15 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

5.9 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

55.0° C

Description

I built this as the main rig for movies, music, surfing, and "productivity."

It has five 5TB drives in raid 5, five 3TB drives in raid 5, two 2TB drives in raid 0, and one ssd for the OS.

The 95 watt FX-8320e stays very cool. I bumped the voltage on it by .15 volts to make it run 4.0GHz all the time. It works great for packing/unpacking files and for HD movie compression.

32GB of ram seems like a lot, but I routinely have 16GBs worth of Chrome tabs open, so I added the extra memory.

I picked up the XFX R9 270x a while back and it performs flawlessly (much better than the old HD4350) for madVR rendering and light gaming. The only complaint (sort of) is that the fans are always on. They are barely audible, but I'd prefer they be off in the htpc (as all the r9 285 and 300 series cards now have the "0 decibel" option). Yeah, I know...a 750ti would have been plenty, but F nVidia.

Anyway, it does everything it's supposed to do and does it 24/7 without making too much noise or heat. The software raid 5 has slow-as-molasses write speeds, but it's free with Windows, so I can't really complain too much. Aside from that and the lack of a 0db fan option on the video card, I'm very pleased with the machine.

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ankousmachine 2 Builds 20 points 40 months ago

"I built this as the main rig for movies, music, surfing, and "productivity."" hmm 44 terabyte....1+

FOB_STER 1 Build 8 points 40 months ago

36TB useable from my calculations since 1 5TB and 1 3TB from each array is used for redundancy :)

thats a lot of storage LOL thumbs up!

ewhac 2 Builds 14 points 40 months ago

5TB is big drive -- roughly 5 * 1013 bits. The spec sheet for your drives quotes a non-recoverable read error rate of 1 every 1014 bits read (a/k/a 10 * 1013 bits). So: Take a brand new 5TB drive, read the whole platter front to back five times twice. Statistically, you will take a non-recoverable read error.

This becomes an issue if ever one of the drives in your RAID-5 volumes goes bad and you need to replace it. The re-silvering process (populating the replacement drive with the parity data) is very read-intensive on the remaining drives -- intensive enough that another drive could take a non-recoverable read error. If that happens before re-silvering is complete, your entire RAID volume is toast.

This is why, for the purposes of ensuring reliable data storage, RAID-5 is considered obsolete, and RAID-6 (two parity drives) is recommended.

(EDIT: Fixed my arithmetic error.)

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

I'll need a bigger case to do raid 6. Maybe next year. :-)

Z3ROWOLFHD 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

That's why you really should only be doing SSD's for RAID-5 because of their amazing read life times, IIRC.

Faizan 1 point 40 months ago

You're so smart!! It seems like you know most things about PCs, hehe.

Superlag 4 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

Raid 5 and 6 are both considered obsolete and can only be recommended in a situation where storage space is more important than uptime. Raid 6 has all the same drawbacks of Raid 5 except can tolerate 1 more drive failure not a huge plus just more overhead. Most new literature recommends Raid 10 for most deployments but that really only applies to an enterprise situation and on top of that with Raid 10 you lose 50% space, but you do gain a bonus to read speeds as well as no penalty when rebuilding a degraded array.

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

Well actually...

retrorecall 1 Build 12 points 40 months ago

wow, that's a lot of pr0n

pegotico 2 Builds 5 points 40 months ago

Yeah, I know...a 750ti would have been plenty, but F nVidia.

+1

Karl0508 1 Build 4 points 40 months ago

Have you tried custom fan curve in MSI afterburner? Think you can turn fans off :)

Love the build

klausfaerevaag 1 Build 1 point 40 months ago

I have my fans on the asus strix card always on because the card goes up to 60 degrees as soon as I start watching a youtube video.. So annoying hearing the fans spin up to 1000 rpm and then slowing down again, and then repeating this process over and over again :P

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Yeah, but the minimum the fans will spin is 1500 rpms. Only the newer 300 series and 285s have the option to turn off the fans below a certain temp...so far as I can tell.

Karl0508 1 Build 2 points 40 months ago

Ahh makes sense

Thats a shame i have the R7 370 and that is silent no fans unless i play AC 4

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CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

I'd rather just throw a water-block on it or grab an itx r9 285 for cheap.

KB_Evolved 5 Builds 4 points 40 months ago

I +1 for any build that puts a pic of a cat. Idc if there isn't a pc in the pic. Maybe I should just join a cat forum. Any good ones out there?

dtallon13 6 points 40 months ago

reddit

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

You could probably find a lot of feminist tumblr blogs that feature cats. :-)

KB_Evolved 5 Builds 0 points 40 months ago

The 4 greatest things in the world, together, you're a genius!

johngerges582 4 points 40 months ago

When his storage is worth more than your computer... +1 How is it working with that case? Seems a bit cramped.

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

Yeah, Franky (the cat) was eyeing all the wires in the back of the case. It's a spaghetti monster for sure...will maybe transfer everything into a Nanoxia Deep Silence 6 next year. I believe those cases will accommodate 13 drives natively. I could probably cram an additional 6 or so in the optical bays. :-)

johngerges582 4 points 40 months ago

I could probably cram an additional 6 or so in the optical bays. :-)

Cause if it fits it works lol.

mr.pieisgood 1 Build 4 points 40 months ago

true f nvidia

RazrLeaf 1 Build 4 points 39 months ago

I clicked because it was on the front page and went "holy crap that's a ton of HDDs."

That is all. =D

TheGingerBeard 3 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

First time I've seen an AMD home server build, It's great! +1

ajpinton 11 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

I have often wondered why people build dedicated NAS's rather then doing what you did, just shove all of the HDD's in to an HTPC or gaming rig. As the average person does not need a standalone NAS. Very good build and very clean, though I do believe this is a little powerful for the average HTPC this is close to a gaming rig in power.

+1 for sure, +2 if I could.

ewhac 2 Builds 4 points 40 months ago

I have often wondered why people build dedicated NAS's rather then doing what you did, just shove all of the HDD's in to an HTPC or gaming rig.

Imagine you shoved all those HDDs in your gaming rig, and then got pwned by Cryptolocker.

A NAS can be secured more easily than a "normal" PC, because it has a much more limited set of jobs it's expected to do. It won't play games or edit video or (important!) surf the Web, so all those potential vulnerabilities don't exist.

Decent NAS software can also protect you from malware or even your own mistakes by making regular snapshots of the shares, and running backups to external media or to the cloud. NASs also help solve the "The file I want to work with is not on the machine in front of me" problem, a problem I frequently experienced moving between laptop and desktop.

manirelli staff 8 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

My NAS simply does more than I need from a standard PC build. More parts in a single build also increases heat and noise. You can toss a NAS in a closet away from everything but your PC usually need to be near monitors as well.

cilvre 6 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

i built a nas using an amd 1ghz dual core mini itx set, it sits in a cabinet out of the way with just a power cord and ethernet cable run to it. its doable. my rig hits 43c in a no airflow cabinet. Also, remote desktop makes it easy to manage if you need to change any settings on it.

mouzzampk2014 2 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Surprise how you keeping yourself up to date with latest comments :) thumbsUp!

NoobBuilder01 2 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

Love seeing people build pc/server hybrids! Awesome build mate. Congrats on the Featured ;) +1

texasmayne 4 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

ok, This must be YiFY... COME BACK YOU *******, WE NEED YOU!!!

pegotico 2 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

they are still among the living lol

Steven_GWUK 1 point 39 months ago

I thought they stopped uploading?

pegotico 2 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

I believe they have a different name..

Steven_GWUK 1 point 39 months ago

Oh, what name do they have? They where amazing xD

pegotico 2 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

I think YTS

Chuck38 3 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

Woah! 16 GB of Chrome tabs? How much **** do you watch??

Just kidding. Looks good. Plenty of storage, that's for sure. +1

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MrMoose88 5 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

RIP airflow

TruenoICE 2 points 40 months ago

Holy mother of storage, why hasn't this been featured!? Amazing build! +1!!!

ajpinton 11 Builds -3 points 40 months ago

Because it is not Intel...

manirelli staff 8 Builds 9 points 40 months ago

Oh please. I feature AMD builds all the time. I don't care if people are using VIA chips as long as they have quality pictures and/or something unique to share.

mouzzampk2014 2 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

:)

ajpinton 11 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

This is more of a poke at AMD not releasing any new silicon recently, and due to this most builders are leaning to Intel builds right now. I have done the same, I am team red but currently rocking a i5-4690k build.

pegotico 2 Builds 4 points 40 months ago

this will change this year I hope with ZEN and polaris!

ajpinton 11 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

I am right there with you, holding out hope.

The new AM3+ motherboards are irritating me, they have added M.2 support which requires PCIe 3.0 that AM3+ does not support. AMD is leaving it up to the motherboard makers to figure out how they will work it. So far most are planning on forcing M.2 on to 4 PCIe 2.0 lanes which would be half as fast as it should be so its really lying to you about support. FM2+ is also adding M.2 support but the socket supports PCIe 3.0 so it is nothing but good there.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9927/amd-announces-a107890k-apu-and-upgrades-desktop-platforms

Faizan 1 point 40 months ago

I think the Emma Watson Build should've been featured. Did you watch the video? (It's what's linked)

liammc 2 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

All the DVDs, CDs, blue-rays and vhs would take 32tbs of space

cilvre 6 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

i would love to take my home built media center to this level, but i dont have the cash for that many drives yet lol. nice job on the build and setup

joelhowell 2 points 40 months ago

Love the build...just one problem:

Picture 1 is missing a fan..

Overall nice server man

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Yeah, I've probably used a couple dozen of those AeroCool fans in various builds and love them, but the bearing was bad in that one, so I had to replace it.

joelhowell 2 points 40 months ago

Ah, I see. Otherwise beautiful build man!

McNoobster 2 points 40 months ago

16 gigs of chrome ô_o !!! Sounds like you like your "private content" a little to much. lol jk +1. Just amazing

Jhobbster 1 Build 2 points 40 months ago

Your cooling is where? oh. BEHIND 12 HARD DRIVES!

piemancoder 2 points 40 months ago

The drive level...

ITS OVER 9000!!!

Also 16 gigs for chrome? Heh, that's nothing :P jk. Definitely +1

JustARandomPancake 0 points 40 months ago

The drive level

You mean that decibel level :D

JustARandomPancake 2 points 40 months ago

Quick question, how loud is that thing O_o

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

Back when AnandTech did their testing, it was the quietest case.

"Even with fans turned all the way up, the DS1 is still quieter than every other case. There's an audible difference between low and high that's unfortunately beneath the noise threshold of my sound meter; at low the case can really only be heard in a silent room in the dead of night." --http://www.anandtech.com/show/6479/nanoxia-deep-silence-1-case-review-you-asked-for-it-you-got-it/5

In the living room and while sitting back in the recliner or sofa, it's not audible. The Nanoxia DS1 case does a great job with their sound dampening material and acoustic characteristics.

JustARandomPancake 2 points 39 months ago

Wow, that is amazing! I'm surprised that a company would really put forth the effort to create a product like that.

NvidiaGirl 2 points 40 months ago

12 Hard Drives and an SSD. 0_o

Psyckosama 2 points 40 months ago

Red Mod. Dude. Red mod.

Get an AIO cooler for that graphics card ASAP.

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

I keep checking for closeout sales on 270x water-blocks...will certainly pick one up for cheap eventually.

Psyckosama 2 points 40 months ago

I was suggesting something along the lines of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3DyUqWWns

Would also give you the thermal leg room to upgrade to something like a more powerful ITX form factor graphics card.

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

Yeah, I'd have to mount the radiator on the side panel door or use the 240mm radiator in the top. On the other hand, AMD just dropped the price on the R9 Nano. :-)

Psyckosama 1 point 39 months ago

Oh yeah, that would be sweet... though if you could... say Red Mod the Fury Nano turning it into basically a baby Fury X that would be utterly insane.

I'll be honest, my main concern with your build is the heat. I have two XFX 280Xs and while I had to install additional case fans (5 Arctic 120s with PWM control, two on the top, two on the bottom, and one on the drive cage pointing directly between the two) to help keep them cool, they're utterly silent most of the time. The fact that your 270X is screaming at you when you game implies that it's cooler is struggling to me.

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

"The fact that your 270X is screaming at you when you game implies that it's cooler is struggling to me."

What are you talking about? The most work the card does is render a blu-ray movie in conjunction with madVR. I don't think it's ever been hotter than 50-55 degrees Celsius...and that was while running a Unigine benchmark.

Right now, the card is 37 degrees and it has been streaming YouTube and playing movies all day. Right now, the fans are spinning at 1500 rpm. That is their slowest speed. Aside from unplugging them, they simply won't spin at a lower rpm.

KenAyugi 2 points 40 months ago

How many tabs is 16 gb in chrome?

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 3 points 39 months ago

I'd have to set up another pc to keep count of the tabs.

ndlanier 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Lol that poor GPU it's getting no airflow from the front of the case for sure haha. Awesome build though!

PCBlock 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Great budget build! XD

ActuallyImJerome 2 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

FEATURED BUILD

Congratulations! Nice build btw (:

vVTyfighterVv 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

+1 for cat

Eternalz 2 points 39 months ago

Nice Build, Although i would of got a 8350 instead of the 8320-E.. lots of storage though O_O should last you forever for storage e.o

videogame57 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Do you think you have enough hard drives?

ben.toast 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

CAT!

Rajenator 2 points 39 months ago

+1 nice

gamingpcpls 2 points 39 months ago

i thought i had too many storage devices in my pc with 4 HDD+2SSD but damn

iwalkwithedead 15 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

Nice :D

lordomega 2 points 39 months ago

Would you like some computer with those hard drives? XD

mattcopp 2 points 39 months ago

How heavy is it? Have you tried lifting/bench pressing with it?

Doubled073 2 points 39 months ago

how heavy is this monster

Growliff1234 1 point 39 months ago

This is what I was wondering...

mike9409 7 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

+1 for awesome build +1 for username +1,000,000 for cat

XxD34THxX 2 points 39 months ago

What's wrong with Nvidia.

+1 for that Hitachi HDD. Those things will not die.

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XxD34THxX 1 point 31 months ago

My Hitachi is... 9 years old... and has 0 airflow... and passes SMART tests with flying colors.. Too bad it's SATA II

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mrfaosfx 2 points 39 months ago

well done, good man.

wllmgrms 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

I like the cat in the picture.

PCAllen 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Yay for AMD builds.

IAMTHEPIXEL 2 points 39 months ago

I think you need more storage

Sockratis 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Great build, and nice picture of the cat.

Stupidtigers 2 points 39 months ago

When your girl says she likes hard drives

dj12134 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Good man, for going with AMD <3 +1

Proward 2 points 38 months ago

This dude spent more money or storage than I did on my whole PC

BotheredTiger7 2 points 25 months ago

Does the cat come with the build?

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

tats nice

Matt_M77 1 point 40 months ago

Very quiet? Very quiet my ***! My xfx 270x sounds like a jet engine, especially in games. It runs at like 73 degrees under load, is completely clean and has 6 case fans to cool it, but no, it still crashes all the time playing CSGO. Maybe I was unlucky and just didn't notice. I thought all XFX cards were loud.

cilvre 6 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

contact them, you probably have a bad fan or an improper cooler attachment causing it to get that hot and run that loud.

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

Yeah, 73 degrees seems really hot for a 270x. Something is wrong if it's running that hot. Perhaps the heat-sink didn't get properly seated at the factory?

SomeJoker 1 Build 1 point 40 months ago

Nice job, man! Congrats on Featured Build! I'm curious though, why >F nVidia ?

SoloMan98 1 point 40 months ago

"F NVidia" +1

the_master_jt 1 Build 1 point 39 months ago

How do you like those deep cool fans?

CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

Superbiz sells them on ebay in their "imicros" store for $14 shipped. At that price point, they are the best fans.

They move a lot of air and do it quietly. They look cool and have a soft texture on the blades.

I've used a couple dozen of them in various builds and love them. I think they are nearly as good as Noctua fans, but much cheaper.

Jazzy663 1 point 39 months ago

Good god, even with all that use, I can't fathom using that much storage for anything.

PCBuildingHelp 1 point 39 months ago

Wow, very good build! Now do you use the Ethernet port on the back of your motherboard as the home server? +1

SvenSkent 1 point 39 months ago

Oh my gawd

ThePfaffanater 1 point 39 months ago

that is a lot of movies on those drives!

Jeeper 1 point 39 months ago

Nice build good sir, any of those drives come broken? Or have any died ?

CaliforniaDaaan 0 points 39 months ago

What the uteral **** would you need 44TB for ?

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CaliforniaDaaan 1 point 39 months ago

Give me 2.

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CaliforniaDaaan 1 point 39 months ago

pretty much what I imagined, I mean, that's how I killed my last computer's set of ram ( ._.)

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CommunistNinja submitter 3 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

There are two empty 5.25 bays and another pcie slot. :-)

gugu96 19 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Then you can get another sata controler card and use the empty 5.25 for 4x2.5 drives!

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