Description

After some consideration couldn't resist any longer to the amazing Swedish stylish, simplistic and industrial like look of Fractal Design and as a lover of ITX systems decided to move away from the niche NCase M1 to something a bit more "serious" that would also give me better opportunity of expansion and also ease of use and maintenance, mainly dust cleaning that takes about 4 thumb screws and 10 minutes to clean filters and dust on the Nano S against nearly 30 minutes on the M1 for the same process.

About tasty hardware, re-used all my previous parts apart from the PSU that also stepped to all another level of Design and Engineering with the new Seasonic SFX-L and loving it! All the remaining parts will not get upgraded for a while as by my experience they are a really good balance to drive my monitor and even on recent titles like Metro Exodus, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assetto Corsa Competizione and DiRT Rally 2.0 can run with consistent frame rates and up to the monitor spec on high settings (Ultra Wide 35" 1080p 144Hz).

Another difficult decision was if to get with Window or Solid Panel and after some consideration preferred to be deadly silent and stealth look instead of flashy and "distractive" to pass more time playing instead of looking at it... will let the "lights show" to happen where it matters the most... on the screen! Please do not get me wrong... I do love to look at all the RGB glory and I had builds like that myself, it is only a matter of personal preference this time around as I did spend more time looking at my flashy build when I had one than actually using and abusing from it!

Hope you enjoy scrolling through the pictures as much as I did with taking the shoots and the building process.

Comments

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Can't go wrong with Noctua if you ever want silent operation

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

True! I'm really and truly a Noctua "Fan" boy! xD

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

so fuuu-ing awesome photos bro'.. amazing pc'. +1 allday

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks ;)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

What a beauty, that's how you do a Mini ITX!

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! ;)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

really clean build, loving the cable management. great work!

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks :)

Cable management was challenging with the 24pin cause the SGX (SFX-L) format comes with shorter cables for ITX, however, managed to find a way. The 24 Pin is passing under the Mobo but not in tension either for the cable or Mobo :)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Really clean build, love it! Could you say something about temps in this case vs your other builds? (mainly interested in Ncase M1). Did you consider adding a bottom intake fan?

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi Guffen, Tks :)

Have some interesting findings, if we look at temperatures comparison and fans setup first:

On the NCase M1 had the same 3 NF-S12B all as intake, the same NF-B9 on the Cooler and one more NF-B9 as exhaust on the back.

On the Nano have only 2 NF-S12B intakes and the 3rd as exhaust, same on the CPU cooler but one less exhaust as decided not to use a dual fan on the CPU cooler and take it out completely.

In terms of PWM the fan setup is all the same between both cases, all PWM controlled via the Motherboard and set to Standard "out-of-the-box" fan curve. Same for the CPU cooler.

Constant room temperature (climate control system) at 21c

CPU idle - M1 32~35c - Nano S 32~35c

CPU full load - M1 65~70c - Nano S 55~60c

GPU idle - M1 32~35c - Nano S35~37c

GPU full load - M1 75~79c - Nano S 68~71c

Looking at temperatures only and taking into account that on the M1 I had custom feet that raise the case about 3mm (enough to make about 2c difference) and 2 fans where just under the GPU this is quite interesting. After that also taking in consideration that the Nano achieves this results being much quieter (about -5dBA than M1) unfortunately I don't have a high sensitivity mic and only used a phone app.

The M1 also looks a lot more open due to all the tiny holes all around the components but then looking at dust filters, the top is open that was causing dust to settle when PC was off or idle and the PSU was also not filtered. The Nano S may look a lot more enclosed but performs exceptionally well in comparison.

And the last point I'm happy with it is exactly ease of cleaning and dust build-up, with the M1 was finding myself dusting every 2 or 3 days, on the Nano S after a full week of use the filters were just dusted but not much dust to be honest and inside still looks pristine like if it was just built a minute ago.

After these findings not thinking to add the additional bottom fan at all for the moment.

Apologies for the extensive reply but was trying to get as much info as possible without being "too" boring ;)

Hope this helps :) let me know if there is anything I missed or you would like to know of my experience.

Happy building!

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow, thank you so much for this awesome reply! Don't even think about this being boring. I'm sure there are many more people like me here who find this information incredibly valuable.

I know there's a good difference in size between the 2 cases. However, I didn't expect load temps to be this much better in the Nano S. Expected better GPU temps in the M1 with the 2 noctuas blowing directly on it.

Now if only Fractal would make an upgraded version of the Nano S.. :)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

You're more than welcome ;)

I believe that on the N because the fans are so close from the GPU actually makes it worst and creates turbulence.

I was expecting, because of the Nano being nearly the double in size, to have some difference if not in temps at least same performance but quieter and I was surprised with both :)

About Fractal Desing, left a comment on their product suggestions form a couple of months ago asking (please, pretty please) for a Nano S2 and Meshify Nano and got an answer in about a week "Thank you for the suggestions, we will take it into consideration"... may not mean much but this got me excited! I would have one of each! HAHAHA, Hardware addiction this is :D

Let's pass the word and have more ppl requesting the same on their official form to see if will push them... or who knows is already on the works ;)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

That's funny! I literally asked for almost the exact same thing on the suggestion page a while ago. A Meshify Nano or a Nano S TG. Hahah :) More ppl should definitely do the same :)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Go Go Go!!! Let's create a community for a petition with Fractal Design! :D

And let's ask for both options! To ask... let's ask BIG! ;) :D

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Ooo... one more tiny detail xD (cannot stop my self now)

On the Nano S, an SFX/SFX-L PSU goes a long way to help with GPU temps with an Air Cooling setup :)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Bonus finding xD

M.2 SSD's can get quite toasty, NVMe usually a bit more than the Sata3, however, Sata3 is on the M.2 with the heatsink but tried to take it out for comparison at some point.

Both also run about 5~6c lower on the Nano S

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Really like your build. I'm thinking of building one in the same case. would you think an ATX size PSU would be alright in terms of being close to GPU? Should be no issues with temps?

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Tks :)

An SFX/SFX-L power supply improves a lot GPU temps on this case, however, many identical builds use ATX.

There is a nice video on about these questions from BitWit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDZNT7mxLQ

Hope this helps :)

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I know I'm a bit late to the build party, but you did an amazing job! I plan on building with the nhd-9l as well, but with a 7400 not 7500. I was wondering how temps are? My only real question for you. You did everything perfectly in my eyes on this bad boy.

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Thank you!

Never reached more than 60c CPU 65c GPU full load ;)

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

;) Thank you so much! Any tips on the cooler? I heard the fan mounting is troublesome

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Was actually really easy :) there are two little contact rubbers that can come off if you're not careful but that's it :)

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Alright! Thank you for the quick responses! I'll make sure to post here once I'm able to get my build together. ;) Have a good christmas.

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year! Looking forward to your build ;)

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  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks ;) Feature would be cool :D we'll see soon hehehe