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This is my desktop which I use primarily for gaming with a little bit of programming on the side. Tried to balance budget and performance. It handles every game I play very well on the highest settings, but I mainly attribute that to the 1600x900 display, which I'm planning on getting rid of very soon. A lot of parts were used from my old desktop such as the wireless card, monitor and drives. I got the motherboard from Microcenter, and the Team Dark RAM on sale on Newegg. The only issue I have is when I'm running Android Studio, Chrome and an Android x86 emulator, the dual-core really starts to show, even at 4.4GHz. I plan to upgrade the processor to something a bit more kick *** when I get the money/when broadwell becomes available. Also have the option for either SLI or Crossfire if I ever actually need it, but of course I hastily purchased my graphics card so I'd have to get a new graphics card anyways :(

But I got the 750 ti overclocked to 1.3GHz and just reaches 1.4GHz boost clock. I can get the GPU memory clocked faster but I didn't see any performance gains going any faster. My G3258 gave me quite a hassle overclocking and I finally settled on a core voltage of 1.36V with Vccin at 1.93V at 4.4GHz. Not even 1.45V core could get it to even load windows at 4.5GHz, so 4.4 seems to be this guy's limit. Still incredibly powerful for a $50 chip!

dual 120mm fans in the front, a 120mm LED fan on the bottom, dual 140mm LED fans on the top, 120mm fan in the rear and two 120mm fans on the Hyper T4. It's nice and quiet idling but it sounds like a rocket under load (which is only when running prime95 and furmark)

Part Reviews

CPU Cooler

I am pretty disappointed in this cooler. Now it works great, I have my G3258 at 4.4GHz with a max temp of 70C. But getting it there was not fun. The finish on the bottom of the heat sink is god awful. I didn't really notice it until I looked at the stock Intel cooler. The finish on the contact pipes is very grainy and it requires a good amount of thermal paste to compensate, which we all know is not a good solution. Also the AMD style clip doesn't apply anywhere near enough pressure. So I just shoved some paper in where the clip clamps down and now it applies plenty of force, I can barely get the thing clamped in. For the bottom I polished it with Blue Magic metal polish numerous times and then cleaned it with isopropyl to get rid of the silicone film left on it. My extra efforts took off ~10-15C from when it came out of the box, and I'm proud of that.

Of course I could have just returned it.

TL;DR: Contact pipes have an awful finish and the clip doesn't apply enough force, but it's correctable.

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Comments

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

You mention that the dual core really starts to slow when running chrome. I find chrome to be the fastest browser on my dual core laptop. What are you doing and how many tabs do you have open for it to slow?

I also went with the pentium g3258 because it's cheap, I was debating between this and the i3 4160 but decided that even with a decent air cooler it's still considerably cheaper. I hope to get mine working tonight.

My former universities computers were i7 4770s therefore an 8 threaded processor, when browsing, I tried to open as many tabs at once but never saw cpu usage go above 20%, I think that was for internet explorer or firefox though not chrome, regardless everything was instantaneous. I didn't know if that was down to the high number of threads or the clock speed. Therefore in future when I upgrade, I bought a cheap z87 motherboard on sale, I'd want to wait for skylake at least anyway because of the new features such as hevc decoding and hdmi2, if I'd be better off with a higher clocked i3 or smaller clocked i5 or even i7.

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

It's just the condition when I have Chrome open with ~6 tabs, Android Studio which is fairly heavy (hate to blame the fact that it's written in Java, but I can't help but blame Java), and an android emulator at the same time. I ran the same combination of programs on an AMD Phenom II x4 945, and it ran beautifully, so I'm assuming it's missing those extra 2 cores. But that's the only issue I've experienced with it!

I think it's definitely a better choice over an i3 4160. While hyper-threading is great, the overclock you can achieve on a G3258 easily makes up for it. And I was debating doing that strategy and possibly going down to an Asus H87 since they enabled overclocking on them, although I don't know much about it. But I figured waiting for Broadwell would be a bit safer because 1) it will work with everything I already have 2) It will be here sooner. Anyways, best of luck to you! :)

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for your well wishes, I am still having problems with mine (both cpu can case fans are on full blast) but have at least got mine up and running, the automatic overclock (OC genie) was at 4.3ghz it wasn't stable though, but compared to the i7 4770s it was snappier, but when I load many tabs at once on chrome, the i7 was quicker.

Yeah I think Java takes advantages of multiple threads so you could make use of a processor with more threads.

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a matter of the developer to implement threading, but I'm pretty sure it Android Studio has a few threads going with all of the plugin management, monitoring tools, etc.

And the best overclock is a manual overclock! Haha it could also just be that particular processor. I heard that sometimes lowering the multiplier and raising the reference clock frequency can yield better overclocks, never tried it myself though. And the i7 would probably be quicker depending on how many plugins and tabs you have open, since Chrome is another program with high thread counts.

EDIT: Just tried to lower the multiplier and raise the reference clock, ended up getting an even worse overclock. Guess it doesn't apply to the G3258

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

+5 for awesome name

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

yah... rifle bearings do that... Quiet till you fire something at it ;) but fabulous build in terms of a bit of future proofing. I see an i5 in this little engines future ;) Jus remember, Windows CAN be picky when doing that... especially OEM. Good luck!

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! I plan on upgrading my monitor, selling my 750 Ti and getting something around the same caliber that I can use for future CF or SLI, and then a new processor. Whatever the next processor I get is, it's gotta be a K series! And thanks for the heads up :)

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

what games do you play?

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Just did a build with the same CPU and GPU and couldn't be happier with it! Nice build!

http://pcpartpicker.com/b/KDyfrH

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Just took a look at it, and it looks good! You have a great taste in CPU and GPU :)

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

how s that case?

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the case! Comes with a good number of fans (and has mounting for 8 case fans), spacious and has pretty good cable management. Looks super sharp and has pretty much everything I could ask for. My only complaint is that the metal pattern over the fans makes a bit of a windy noise when the fans are intakes. It's hardly noticeable but when you're picky about noise it's there. I actually cut it off on the top fans (the metal pattern on the actual frame, not the plastic cover) and now it's perfect.

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

wow thats a lot of fans

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

You're having a bad experience with the fan because it's made for stock clock cooling or very low-low overclocking. Stick to a lower stable clock and eventually get a HYPER 212 or CRYORIG H7, which are only about $15 more than the cost of your T4 ( H7 fit's in most cases, 212 is large and doesn't fit in, for example, the popular SPEC-0x series case and looks a little better for some).

Once you have those fans you can consider an upgrade to like a 4690K in a year or 2. Keep in mind that if you make this upgrade you should probably get a 600W higher-tier PSU (basically anything on the left side of this psu tier list http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg)

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

H7 fit's in most cases, 212 is large and doesn't fit in, for example, the popular SPEC-0x series case and looks a little better for some)

the 212 EVO fits inside the blackhawk case, the side panel fan needs to be removed. But i agree the H7 which is smaller (145mm vs 159mm) is better and outperforms the EVO.

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

very very good _^