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Updated: 8/8/19

Some goals I had when picking the PC components.

  1. Intel and Nvidia (having had AMD for both cpus and gpus over the years I wanted to see what Intel and Nvidia had to offer**)

  2. 240hz/fps multiplayer gaming. Also the ability to play any single player game maxed out in quality and my desired resolutions, ranging from 1080p to 4k with gsync.

  3. I wanted to spend about 2500ish on the base pc and then save extra money in the budget for accessories, total budget is 4k.

  4. Air cooled silence. Old PC was so low powered but also extremely quiet. I took this as a challenge to make the new pc as quiet(turned out more quiet) than my old one.

**OLD PC: Hp p7-1254 complete specs in all their glory https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03135882. I did put in an RX 550 because the HD 6630D or whatever in the A6-3620 became legacy components. I also put in the a8-3850 at the same time as the rx 550, both together provided a noticeable increase in usability but the CPU was still very weak. 100% CPU usage to download games at 20mb/s!

About the goals:

I got the 8700k and the RTX 2080. This machine is a beast and does indeed hit 240fps in all the esports titles you can throw at it. 240fps lock in some older titles. Bioshock remastered plays at 240. Necessary? No. Still pretty awesome but this was one mistake I made that I couldn't have known without experiencing it. 240fps is only necessary if you are the pro esports god lol. Although it is amazing in some single player games the amount of game engines that can actually hit 240fps are few and far between. The amount that can hit 100+ all the time however is much higher. If I could have know this at the time of picking parts I would have gone with a 144hz 2K IPS display to make more sense for the type of games I play.

I need to take new pictures. I have redone the filters on the front case panel. I have also redone the fan orientations probably 50 times. My current configuration of fans leaves every intake filtered by the DustEND G3 black filters. Despite the restrictive filters current orientation of fans gives me near open side panel temperatures(+1.5C on average). Gpu intakes get direct cold air. Cpu intakes get direct cold air. All fans turn at ~900rpm until 60C when they will ramp up to 1000rpm. 200mm fan runs at 600rpm and goes to 700rpm.

TL:DR backstory. Been gaming since the early 90s started with Super Nintendo. Been primarily a console gamer but have dabbled in pc gaming on and off over the years. I've been used to 30-60fps console gaming for years but after getting into Super Smash Bros competitively this made me think more about the competitive nature of multiplayer games outside of the fighting genre. I was recently given the opportunity to build my dream pc and this is what I came up with.

As a first time builder I must say the process is user friendly with the amount of YouTube guides available.

THE RTX 2080

Going from the RX 550 a8-3850 combo, to the 8700k rtx2080 combo is godlike at minimum. I love graphics, features, etc. I can max even the experimental options out and can finally experience physx in borderlands 2 one of my all time favorite games. I was going to get a 1080ti but realized that even if the rtx 2080 can only play 1080p ultra 30fps with ray tracing on I'll gladly take it as the experience will be no doubt smoother than the rx 550 provides without ray tracing and I can really only compare it to that first hand.

-side note: Gsync is outstanding 10/10 Gysnc is better than any other feature on the monitor. I couldn't recommend a form a variable refresh rate technology more. Freesync or gsync this is game changing to the gaming experience.

I don't know and never really found out enough about what makes a mother board $600 vs 150$ other than lots of ports, I/O, or really fancy audio, extra shielding, power delivery, and heat spreaders. Even now after all the research I'm not sure what makes a mobo that expensive. I went with the TUF series because it seemed rugged or at least the advertising made me feel that way lol

^^ I would have gotten a slightly better motherboard with more bios control. There is some level of spread spectrum that I cannot disable and as a result cannot hit 4.9 exact but 4.895Ghz. It's a small thing but I've seen exact numbers in benches and I should have researched motherboards a bit more.

Prime titanium Power supply has more whine than the 2080 which is very quite(can only hear the whine with my ear directly next to it, so basically no whine at all) the power supply I can hear from 6 or so inches away but obviously both these cases are extreme and the pitch of either is never heard. Other than than that the power supply is silent. I run with hybrid mode off(fan always on).

nVME PCI VS SATA I went with the cheapest 1tb sata m.2 drive I could find and its working wonderfully the whole pc takes about 12-18 seconds to start and instantly be usable. Took 6 minutes on the Hp p7-1254.

Took ages to dial in a stable overclock but finally I have. 4.9Ghz 1.24Vcore. 1.1 VCCsa, 1.1 VCCio. CPU Games in the 40-50s in gpu intensive games and 60s to low 70s in cpu intensive games. CPU temps r15 low 60s CPU temps r20 mid 70s.

When not at full power draw 260W+ my custom fan curve has the 3 fans spinning @1500rpm up to ~230W power draw this fan speed will keep it below 68C. At 68C another 200rpm for 1700rpm on each fan. Then at 70C 2000RPM.

Doom 4K(260W according to hwinfo64) GPU fans @2000rpm | 21C ambient temp | GPU 68-69C.

Even with the fans all at 2000rpm each with the speakers on and a game like Doom going its hard to hear the card in the case. For example the dishwasher/AC/Pellet stove are far louder than the graphics card fans.

Added a 1TB 860evo for more games!

Graphics card is extremely heavy. It did come with its own support brace. I've seen review articles, reviewers and videos showing it not really support the card or people saying it supports nothing. Not to call out but It's been installed wrong in everyone one of those "doesn't support the card" reviews. If you tighten the brace angled slightly upward and slightly higher than where it needs to be the brace itself will tighten down and align just right. Zero graphics card sag on the gpu.

Dustendg3 filters can be gently cleaned with soap and water despite manufacturer saying they should be replaced when dirty.

Part Reviews

CPU

Went from the first line of AMD llano core APUs, the A8-3850, to this monster. I've never been able to have more things open and still have the computer act like nothing is open. What is this magic? I actually find myself still closing things I don't need to in order to do another task like on my old cpu!

-Runs hot like they say, hit 5ghz no problem. 4 stars because intel tim is doodoo|

Update: Yikes above that was with AUTO overclocking on the board. Don't use that. Got a golden chip honestly. 4.9Ghz 1.24vcore. Used Der8auer's overclocking guide. Can do 5.1Ghz at 1.35vcore but then it does run hotter. With my 4.9Ghz overclock can run silent fan curves and keep it high 60s low 70s C in cpu intensive games and below 60C in gpu intensive games. Gets Cinebench R15 scores at 4.9Ghz around 1650s with priority on real-time. Finally keeping many things open at once.

CPU Cooler

Silent in my case. Comfortably loud when at full. This cooler works so well the curve I've got is silent when gaming on an 8700k and my temps only hit 60s when gaming for an hour!

+1 from certain angles it looks like an engine lol

Motherboard

Super tough lol, the front IO of my enthoo pro, the usb 3.1 connector. It was so solidly connected to the plastic of the slot on the board it ripped it off the board when I was doing cable management and had to unplug it. I had to guide the plastic shroud back over the pins and 2 tries resulted in two different types of bends, a kink and a flatten, but I was able to take small jewelry pliers and position the pins back straight, the plastic guide went back on the third try, no bent pins and the front IO of the case works just fine.

Memory

Wasn't going to get RGB anything until I got the MSI Gaming X Trio 2080 and decided that at least one other thing should have some RGB. I wanted 3200mhz but the 3600mhz was on sale so it was a no brainer to just grab the higher overclockable memory. After some bios setting it hit 3600mhz with literally no more effort than a few clicks.

I don't care about rgb all that much but damn the lighting effects are cool, also has a music mode

Storage

Cheap awesome fast! How much more do you want. Idk how hot ssds are supposed to run but this thing runs from 30C to 70C but when I touch it inside the case it never feels that hot....

Storage

Works awesome and is also quite. I've got some old hard drives still from my ancient PC and they are disgustingly loud in comparison to this thing I had no idea how quiet hard drives had become.

I guess they work faster the more you access the same data, repeated launchings of GTA V boot much faster than my ps4.

Video Card

WOW! I've never owned anything like this so I'm probably biased and the only dedicated GPU I've owned to compare it to is an RX550. But in direct comparison to that my RX 550 idled at about 38-42C and the RTX 2080 idles at 37-40C. Idk how you can pack that much more power into a card and come up with a cooling solution better than the rx 550 being only 35W card lol. Hottest I ever got the rx 550 was 72C when gaming and the hottest I've gotten the GTX 2080 is 69C. I'm more of a quality over frames person when it comes to the single player experience but now getting to experience both is just next level.

Update: Repasted GPU with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. Shaved a few degrees off idle down to 32-38C. I use a custom fan curve to keep the GPU below 70. 1500rpm both fans until 68*C then 1700 until 70 when it hits 2000rpm on both fans. This will keep the card at 68-69C pulling 260-270W. Room temp 21.1C

Case

Would be 5/5 if the usb 3.1 connector for the front panel was a little less "snappy" what I mean by that is the plug fit so freaking securely into my mother board when doing cable management it actually ripped off the plastic shroud around the pins on the usb plug in on the mother board when I tried to unplug it. All is well and everything went back together after some pain but the front IO still works just fine.

-A breeze to build in, amazing air flow

Power Supply

Modular design was amazing to work with. Everything about the PSU, cables and all, are conveniently labeled making installing a breeze. Cables are long enough and fit great inside my enthoo pro case

Optical Drive

this is the only part in my pc that makes audible clicking noises and when I first put it in I thought something broke! Other than that works great and I have legacy cd games lol

Operating System

Honestly I like windows 10 over 7.

-10000000 for integrating cortana

Case Fan

Custom silent fan curve and even at sub 1000rpm still able to handle all heat thrown at it.

The pitch is pleasant but the noise level is a bit much at max rpm to run these beasts full tilt. I should mention despite the low 800-900rpm I have them set to they are directly up against DustEND G3 air filters(which claims to filter dust down to 5 micron). Even with the massive restriction of the DustEND air filters they still mange to keep all components cool. The way I have fans set up my gpu gets near open case temperatures despite every intake fan having the air filters. Good fans.

Monitor

Be it the cpu, gpu, or this monitor, or the combination of all 3. I no longer lose peak shots by lagging behind the in game peak in multiplayer games. Before my pc would show I peaked ages after I really did making me die almost everytime in this type of senario. Tracking and shooting on this monitor is amazing.

10/10 Gsync is awesome! I have never experienced borderlands 2 so smooth.

Keyboard

Researched cherry mx switches. cherry mx browns sounded like they would fit my needs. They are amazing! I can type without that harsh click but still get that clicky feel. LED effects are red only but has a mode that highlights the last key you pressed I love it.

Mouse

the weights included are awesome. tracking with this mouse is way too smooth. I thought I might accidentally click the two buttons right next to the left click but I never do.

Custom

No problems yet worked without a hitch. Looks awesome. And being able to stream low latency from console games like smash ultimate coming soon is really cool.

Comments

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Looks great, love the build and what an upgrade! I do not think that is an NVME drive, but still a nice brand and convenient install!

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! I just updated it to say sata only.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice. Those gpus look great

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Good job. You just didn't throw it together with random cheap parts and did you're research. +1.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

how is the graphics card reliability since purchase ?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

TL:DR: Its good, fast and has been incredibly reliable.

Driver Reliability:

Early drivers had issues, hardware acceleration in chrome didn't work on earlier drivers(would cause me to bsod), all issues I've had driver related have been fixed by now. Gsync reliability which ties into the card and monitor, can be iffy sometimes. Gsync pretty much always works but getting the game in the right fullscreen, non borderless window mode, can be a pain, esp when trying to do 4K DSR down to 1080p and the age of the game. Id say like 85% of games gsync "just works"LOL but in the other 15% of games you may have to tweak your window mode and stuff. It also still to this day can cause a weird screen misalignment after switching between DSR'd resolutions/upon waking from sleep. All the Gsync issues are being worked on. The issues related to Gsync rarely happen to me now.

Game Reliability:

I don't use geforce experience, idk if that matters but I don't. Except for the occasional driver related issue, like MSAA being messed up in a game, shadows being messed up(early drivers and far cry 5), etc which rarely rarely happens and is typically fixed immediately. It just shreds all games I throw at it. ****** unoptimized games are even playable now! Any game pre 2016 I have to play at higher resolutions than 1080p otherwise there is like 50% GPU power just sitting there doing nothing. Basically the card is so fast at 1080p I find I am hitting a cpu bound engine fps limit rather than max out the cards capabilities. Its really really good at 1440p 120+fps in most games. and 90+ in all the modern ones. What I do is see the max fps I get in a game's engine at 1080p, then gpu utilization, and crank up the resolution until my frame rate barely goes down but gpu usage goes up to 99%. This like having your cake and eating too as you get to play at ultra maxed out qualities AND high resolution AND high frame rates. It blows my mind.(was on an rx550 LOL)

Sound/Thermal/Power Reliability:

Card is quiet, stock fan curve at 70*F ambient is supposed to keep the card around 70C but thats open air test benches. In a case it will go above 70 on the stock fan curve so I set my own. At 1550rpms, card will not hit 70C unless it has a full load of 250-260W+ at all times(Doom 4K uncapped fps) in which case at 70C the fans go to 1800rpms and thats enough to keep it at 68C in a closed case, with restrictive air filters, and its basically silent. The only way I can hear my card in my case is if there isn't a single other appliance in the house on. Well all the nvidia gpus have gpu boost so that + msi's beefy cooler on this thing keep me boosted at 1950Mhz+ at all times. The card never dips below 1950Mhz(with my fan curve. stock curve would sometimes hit around 72C this can cause gpu boost to go down to 1935-1920Mhz). My card is within average for overclocking, game depending but the highest overclock I've had was only +125mhz so the card was around 2100Mhz. That was a benchmark only, not many games will let me hold over a 50+mhz overclock and remain stable. But thats silicon lottery. My CPU overclocks like a beast I wish I had the same luck on my GPU silicon.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Gotta link to that gpu bracket?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

GPU bracket came in the box with the 2080

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow, thats legit lol. Did you know prior to opening or was it a surprise lol?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I read one review of it or somewhere that it had "a bracket". I imagined an ugly bracket but I think the one that came with is pretty nice!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Ha! You went "Full Noctua"...congrats, hopefully you didn't scrape your fingers trying to squeeze it in there.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

No scrapes! haha

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

man that's a nice computer!

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Yay! Im stoked to hear that when this is my first time building one!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

lol i'm totally jealous of your graphics card, i'm still on a 980

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

At least it isn't an RX 550! I dont even know what its like to have a 980 and this leap is just like I'm blown away right now by it. Sometimes I get weird graphic glitches tho(far cry 5) but so far they have all been known driver issues but its scary at first when you get some glitches on a brand new card. I thought it was dying at first

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

the 980 is great for 1080, meh for 1440, and horrible for 4k. It's biggest problem is vram, 4 gigs just doesn't cut it now. lol, yesterday i finally caved and bought a 1080, I can afford them now some are under $400. but yeah a 550 to a 2080 is a pretty immense leap. i hope they work out all the driver bugs soon, for the sake of everyone who went RTX.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Great built

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

How good is the pg258q for movies and gaming?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Well the TN panel is pretty much the same color wise as my old acer monitor that was about the same size but only 60hz. That monitor was old and had horrible ghosting and blur. The pg258q is extremely crisp regardless of base frame rate of the content displayed. So even when I watch streams on twitch such as smash, it looks noticeably crisper and cleaner. However I'm going to get a 2k or 4k ips panel as well for single player games. The pg258q satisfies all my multiplayer needs. I used a toms hardware guide to calibrate the monitor and it looks really good right now.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you, i really appreciate it. I'm thinking of buying one of those.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Great build! Very similar to my own choices. Were you able to achieve Noctua clearance over those two G.Skill Trident memory modules? (Did you have to raise one fan?) I assume the upgrade to add two sticks down the road is also clear. I've been thinking of using Corsair Vengeance LPX sticks because they are 31mm low-profile with the Noctua. Thanks!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually the NH D15 is so tall that I could take out and put in the Trident Z RGB sticks with the cooler in place. One fan does sit slightly higher but what I did was just put the middle fan a lil lower to blow on my VRMs and the back fan a little higher to blow over the top of the cooler and out the back. Just a tip with this cooler, even tho I only had if for a month or so lol. I had it set up like it is in my pictures but I changed the fan configuration. In the pictures you see all 3 of the top fans and the rear fan as exhaust and the 200mm fan as intake. This is was sub par for air flow. This probably isn't true for every case but mine is basically open at the back so I ditched the fans it came with. Used the 4 noctua redux fans I got instead, All as intake, so from that pic I switched the middle and right top fans to intake, and put two fans as intake in the front. I do not have any exhaust fans now, the positive pressure pushes all the heat out and having an exhaust fan in line with the noctua actually reduced performance because the exhausts create turbulence. I'll see if I cant take a picture or something but now my NH D15 just blows right out the back unimpeded and temps went down about 5-10C from where I was before.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the update! I appreciate your time and opinion. So I assume you removed the back fan and just left the fan mount opening vacant as an exhaust? I was planning on keeping the 3 supplied Fractal 140s on my Define R6 case and buying 3 more, for a total of 6. The Noctua NF-A15s at 82.5 CFM are amazing, but I think I'm happy with a quiet 68.4 CFM each. I planned to balance exhaust and intake at 3 fans each. Two exhausts for the top and one at the back (supplied), two at the front blowing in and another at the bottom blowing in. Are you saying you would turn all these fans to blow in and push out the back of the case? Very interesting! On my other question, I'm currently going with the Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz, which are very close to the G.Skill, and they are only 32mm tall. Thanks again!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea I uploaded a few more pics today, the ones with the blue and red arrows, to show my current air flow. With all the fans set to intake so much air blows out the back of the case it blows a lighter out. All I'm saying is for my particular case removing the back case fan and just letting the noctua do the work made it preform better. Oh about the ram 3200mhz is great. If you check out some RAM speed effects on gaming fps vids you'll see diminishing returns after 3200mhz with barely any fps gains going higher for what they cost. I only got the 3600mhz cause it was on sale haha course its game dependent how much gains you get.

Also switched to all intake because my house is dusty and thats no good. I also added pics of my dust proofing so now all the air coming in is filtered down to 5 micron size, I think that is what DustEND G3 is rated for which is the material I used. Its an understatement to say these pcs move a lot of air and that means obnoxious amounts of dust where I live so with the dust proofing nothing gets in.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice and awesome build +1