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PC build for parents (replacing 7-year-old Dell D830 laptop) - opinions/suggestions?

pianoplayer88key
  • 54 months ago

Hi PCPP'ers …

My mom's been complaining about their laptop being deathly slow recently (this after I've quit using it cause I built my own PC earlier this year), and my dad told me a couple weeks or so ago he's thinking of getting a desktop computer. (We'd been using desktops before he got the laptop, including one I built earlier in 2008 that died about 4 years later.)

So, I've been scrounging around on PCPP, and have put together a preliminary parts list for them. I haven't been told a specific budget yet, so I was basing it on approximately what the Dell laptop had cost when it was new, which was somewhere around $1000 or so.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $220.36 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $37.08 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $102.11 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $107.48 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX200 250GB M.2-2260 Solid State Drive $97.72 @ Newegg
Case Xion XON-560 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $42.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $50.35 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer $21.48 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 OEM (64-bit) $153.47 @ Newegg
Monitor Dell P2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor $249.22 @ Newegg
Keyboard Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $16.11 @ Newegg
Other Alternate Motherboard: Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard -- Newegg: $139.73
Other Alternate DVD RW: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer -- Newegg: $22.47
Other Alternate Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (note: if full-size ATX motherboard used, won't fit in Xion XON-360) -- Newegg: $61.72
Other Alternate PSU: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power -- Newegg: $59.11
Other Alternate PSU: SeaSonic 360W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply -- Newegg : $68.47
Other Alternate RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory -- Newegg: $90.28
Other Alternate OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit - OEM -- Newegg: $153.48
Other Alternate Monitor: LG 24MB35PY-B 60Hz 23.8" Monitor -- Newegg: $229.74
Other Alternate Monitor: Dell P2314H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor -- Newegg: $233.22
Other Alternate Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case -- Newegg: $118.47
Other Alternate Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case -- Newegg: $64.48
Other Alternate CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler -- Newegg: $47.50
Other Alternate CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper D92 54.8 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler -- Newegg: $44.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1098.36
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 08:09 EDT-0400

Do you think this would be adequate for general use for the next, say, 6 to 8 years? They're not gamers, hence the lack of a discrete GPU, but they do watch movies, do some excel, and other things that may benefit from having something halfway decent.

Also, just in case they want to go with a lower budget, I put together this build. I targeted around $600 and went a little over, but oh well...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $71.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $51.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $48.36 @ Newegg
Case Xion XON-560 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $42.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $50.35 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 OEM (64-bit) $153.47 @ Newegg
Monitor Dell P2314H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor $233.22 @ Newegg
Keyboard Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $16.11 @ Newegg
Other Optional HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive -- Newegg: $56.96 (if 500GB WD HDD from Dell D830 laptop is insufficient)
Other Alternate CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor -- Newegg: $136.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $661.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 08:12 EDT-0400

What's your opinion on either of those parts lists? Anything that should be changed in either one?

There's a few parts that I chose cause they met certain criteria. For example, the case includes 2 fans, none of which are smaller than 120mm (some only come with 1), has a top exhaust mount, is no larger than about 18" high by 8.5" wide by 20" deep (because it's going in a computer desk and that leaves some room around it), does not have a hinged front, and the front USB and audio ports are on the top facing toward the front, not facing up. (Vertical-facing front/top ports would be okay if the case is under ~15" tall, like the Fractal Design Core 1300 or 1500 or Arc Mini R2.) Also, if I went with a case that would fit it, I'd go for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. For the low budget build I'd likely just use the stock cooler. Btw would the one that came with my i7-4790K possibly be better than what comes with the G3258 if we went that route? I'm using the 212 EVO on my 'K, but I'm thinking I may need to reinstall it as HWMonitor says I'm hitting 95-100C within like 30-60 seconds or so running Prime95 small FFT torture test. Also since we don't have A/C in the house and live in SoCal, sometimes ambient temperatures can hit 32C (90F) indoors when it gets hot outside and stays warm at night. I remember having one brutally hot summer several years ago, and while I don't remember the indoor temps, considering it reached 47+C (117F) outside, I wouldn't have been surprised if it was 38-40C (100-104F) indoors. Also the ~$660 build doesn't include a storage drive (except as an option/footnote), as I'm thinking if they went that route they could re-use the WD Black 500GB out of the laptop that they put in a few years ago, and is about 1/3 full or so.

Also, in the unlikely event that my dad decides to spend around $1800 (what he paid for their first computer back in 1989), is it possible to do a reasonable LGA2011-3 build in that price range? (Chances are we won't spend that much, so one of the 2 above builds or some variation on it would be more likely.) Or, in the unfortunate possibility that he says he can't spend more than, say, $200-300, then what could be built for that, including monitor & keyboard+mouse, without using mail-in rebates? Or in that case would it be better for them to keep using the Dell (even though it's still running Windows XP) and save up more $? Also I prefer buying everything from NewEgg, although would also consider buying things locally in the San Diego, CA area as well. (I also go to L.A. about once a month, but that's on Sundays. My parents also occasionally go to visit my grandma, often not on a weekend, but we usually don't know when much ahead of time.)

Btw, the computer I'm currently running is this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor Purchased For $329.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For $34.99
Motherboard ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Purchased For $164.99
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Purchased For $99.99
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Purchased For $99.99
Storage Crucial M550 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $89.99
Storage Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $174.99
Storage Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $174.99
Storage Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $174.99
Case Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For $129.99
Power Supply Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $149.99
Optical Drive Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Purchased For $63.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 OEM (64-bit) Purchased For $139.99
Monitor Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor Purchased For $249.99
Keyboard Logitech MK200 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse Purchased For $24.99
Other Lite-On LH-20A1S Purchased For $31.99
Other Coboc CY-CAT6-75-BK 75ft 24AWG Cat 6 Black Cable Purchased For $9.93
Other Promo Code: $-95.56 Purchased
Other Shipping Purchased For $14.73
Other Sales Tax Purchased For $173.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2333.50
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 08:30 EDT-0400

That total should be lower, but I can't put a negative purchase price on (in the "other" category) to reflect promo codes used at time of purchase.

P.S. I do wish there was a "preview" button so I could make sure my post will look right. (At least there's apparently an edit button.) Also I wish there was a confirmation when overwriting a parts list. I accidentally overwrote the $1100 skylake build with the $660 haswell info, and it's a good thing I happened to have it still open in another window, and good thing I resaved it before accidentally closing my browser (or it crashing and closing itself).

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  • 53 months ago
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Another thing I thought of ... would it be a good idea to wait until Black Friday? If so, though ... I'll need to modify my parts list to have multiple options, as it took a couple weeks to research this one and decide what to put in the list. (And I won't know what goes on sale until it actually does go on sale.)

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