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First Build, would like opinions

rdt9739

2 months ago

I posted this about 2 months ago but I’ve changed some items and added more and would like to get some more feedback on it

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmGHBZ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ B&H) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($67.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($413.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan ($22.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan ($22.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan ($22.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan ($22.90 @ Amazon) Monitor: Asus MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($423.99 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon) Mouse: Redragon COBRA M711 Wired Optical Mouse ($19.82 @ Amazon) Total: $1976.21 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 14:52 EST-0500

A couple questions I want to have answered: 1. Will this setup be enough for 1440p High settings at at least 60 FPS? (Around 90 would be optimal) This is for most games in general 2. Will the CPU cooler with all fans attached be fine with the current RAM so far, and will it still fit if I add another 2x8 GB later down the road? 3. Will the case fans provide sufficient cooling performance? (Setup will be 2 intake at front, 1 exhaust at back, and another exhaust on the top - exhaust will be facing walls - case will be sitting next to my desk) 4. Would it make sense to downgrade monitor to 1440p 120hz? This covers all I can think of for now I plan to use this for light video editing and gaming Any advice on anything will be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance (If I missed any information, please let me know so I can provide the needed info)

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  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler $74.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $194.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.98 @ Amazon
Storage Intel 660p 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $210.45 @ Walmart
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $413.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $84.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Fractal Design X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $12.99 @ Amazon
Monitor LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $499.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $39.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Redragon COBRA M711 Wired Optical Mouse $19.82 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2134.05
Mail-in rebates -$15.00
Total $2119.05
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 15:35 EST-0500

The SSD drive from your build doesn't have a price!

(1). Will this setup be enough for 1440p High settings at at least 60 FPS? (Around 90 would be optimal)

Not with any game at 1440p

(2). Will the CPU cooler with all fans attached be fine with the current RAM so far, and will it still fit if I add another 2x8 GB later down the road?

Should be fine but the DR4 will still do a good job and it costs less.

(3). Will the case fans provide sufficient cooling performance?

You only need one additional 120mm at the front.

(4). Would it make sense to downgrade monitor to 1440p 120Hz?

Now it starts to get funny.

The ASUS Asus MG279Q will not work at 144Hz with Free-sync active! It goes down to 90Hz! Don't ask why ask ASUS about that. :-P And that's why i changed the Monitor. If you don't mind that that Asus Monitor is high-quality Monitor.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the reply, it really helps with choosing! That being said, I should’ve probably clarified that 60 FPS is fine, even 50 if I have to make that compromise- as long as it’s playable. 90 is just if I can do it :P As for the SSD not having a price, it had one before (it was around 400, I think) which is why I chose it other than the 660p which I’ve heard having serious slowdown issues when it starts to get filled up, which is what drove me away from it. I want to take advantage of the full 2 TB. As for everything else, thank you! I’ll gladly take this all into account, as lowering price will really help with getting the PC. Again, thanks! If you have any other NVME 2TB options, feel free to let me know. Otherwise, I’ll stick with the Samsung and buy it when the price comes back

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

which is why I chose it other than the 660p which I’ve heard having serious slowdown issues when it starts to get filled up, which is what drove me away from it.

The most SSD drives will slow down you fill them up completely.

Besides if that happens you should consider to get a larger drive anyway.

But really, paying twice the price for an SSD drive is the most ineffective way to spend money. No offence. :-P

Other drives to consider: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/LxXnTW,qCmFf7/

And honestly, if you have in mind to pay that huge amount of money on a 2TB SSD drive take a look at the below.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9177/corsair-force-series-mp600-1tb-nvme-pcie-gen4-2-ssd-review/index6.html

At least that way you can use the PCIe 4.0 feature of that board. That's something. ;)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

That is true - the Samsung is expensive, and I’ll definitely take anything cheaper. I’ll look into the 2TB Sabrent or the MP600 (both 1 and 2tb) They look better for the price and honestly now that I think about it, they do slow down. I guess I just want something faster than QLC. The Sabrent looks good, too. I’m looking for 2TB cause keeping everything on one drive is just gonna be simple and I don’t want to pick and choose which games to put on the HDD or SSD. Plus, it’ll be more than enough space to last. (Also don’t worry, no offense taken ;) ) I have one more question - Will the 5700 XT be able to run 1440p high at playable frame rates? (30, 40, 50 FPS) If not, what compromises would I have to make?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

That’ll do, thanks!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

One last thing - I intend to upgrade my components later down the line. This includes a GPU upgrade - will the PSU be able to support up to the 2080 you suggested?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes it will.

Check the below benchmarks.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-pulse/7.html

Fps should be a bit less on some games, as the i9-9900K@5.0GHz is faster than the R7 3700X.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Should I expect like 10 FPS lower, or more like 15? Other than that, yeah, that’ll be fine- Thank you for helping (This goes for both of the people, you and the other guy) by the way, it really helps

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Isn't the 660p QLC, rather than TLC?

Fine for a secondary drive which sees little write activity (Steam, movies etc), but I wouldn't want one as my only storage.

QLC drives aren't cheap enough to offset their drawbacks, so for only a couple of cents/GB more (even before the sales) I'd rather TLC.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes sure, but i have an 6 years old 3.5" SSD drive (NVMe what's that for? lol) and it still boots and loads fairly quick.

And with that being said QLC or not QLC, if you compare SSD specs then yes it may be a huge difference, but in a real world scenario it wouldn't make a difference whatsoever, unless you need a SSD drive for special tasks and a 24/7 workload. ;)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree that for most people in most situations, a SATA SSD will be fine: the difference between a HDD and a SATA SSD really is noticeable, between SATA and NVMe SSD, not so much.

But if you are going are to spec NVMe, then I think the difference between QLC and TLC does need to be considered. If it's the only drive (so seeing a greater number of writes), then QLC will perform noticeably worse as the drive fills up and the cache shrinks.

The only way to reduce the impact, is to buy a much bigger QLC drive than you will need, which seems like a waste of money to me.

But to an extent, our polite disagreement is moot: at 1TB there is no cent/GB difference and at 2TB it's only 2 cents/GB.

whatchagonnado :)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $199.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $114.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $249.98 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC2 ULTRA GAMING Video Card $653.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $102.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $22.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $22.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $22.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan $22.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $322.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $39.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Redragon COBRA M711 Wired Optical Mouse $19.82 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2295.29
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 15:20 EST-0500

You need a 2080 to get closer to the 90fps goal.

Overall cost is slightly lower, even with the SSD not having a price.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I probably should’ve pointed out that I’ll be happy with playable frame rates (90 was if I actually could, realistically I’ll be happy with 40, 50, or 60 since I come from a really bad gaming rig) As for the SSD, I’ve heard that there can be trouble with cloning drives or getting Windows to work, but there are more good than bad reviews on Amazon which is why I’ll consider it as well, otherwise I’ll get the Samsung (it was around 400, so this seems like a better buy) and besides, I’m not cloning anything so it seems more appeasing Other than that, this seems like a better price-performance than my last build, so a very good thanks for that! :)

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