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First Ever Gaming Build (Feedback Needed!)

quasar333

1 month ago

Hey everyone, I was just looking for feedback on my build before I purchase it. I am willing to go up or down in price a little, but want to stay around the $2000 mark with everything included. For reference, I mainly play Borderlands 3 and Overwatch now.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.98 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $499.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case $138.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Newegg
Monitor Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $322.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Razer Basilisk Wired Optical Mouse $48.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1940.84
Mail-in rebates -$15.00
Total $1925.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 01:45 EST-0500

Comments

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

do you have 2xxx cpu to preform the bios update otherwise I would go with a 2nd gen ryzen cpu or if you can find it cheap a used 2nd gen APU so you can update the bios of the mobo so it can support 3rd gen ryzen if its not already updated to support it

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I believe the max version supports 3rd gen Ryzen. But I am unsure. This link may help:

https://asset.msi.com/pdf/main/global/presale_v2/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX?

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points
  • SSD which has better endurance.

  • Faster memory.

  • X570 motherboard, actually be able to get the most from your processor.

  • Mesh front case for better airflow.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $127.50 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $79.98 @ Amazon
Storage Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $499.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case $139.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $322.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Razer Basilisk Wired Optical Mouse $44.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1934.39
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 10:18 EST-0500
  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I really appreciate the help. I’m not super knowledgable when it comes this since it’s my first time, so could you please go into more detail? I.E. What is the benefit of a faster memory and how do you know my motherboard isn’t up to par with the rest of my build? Thanks!

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Ryzen processors are very sensitive to memory frequency. They have a preferred speed at which we refer to as the sweet spot, usually this is the best combination of memory frequency & price for a particular series of Ryzen processors, e.g. for second generation processors 3000 MHz & 3200 MHz are generally accepted RAM frequencies, with 3200 MHz being the sweet spot because at this frequency you get the best performance from your processor.

With third generation Ryzen ideally 3733 MHz with latency of CAS 14 would probably give you the best performance, (anything beyond 3733 MHz and the infinity fabric which connects different parts of the processor constricts the bandwidth resulting in only half as much data being able to pass through which prevents an overload that the processor isn't able to handle). The sweet spot for third generation Ryzen has been determined at 3600 MHz at CAS 16, the reason being that there is more of this RAM available and at significantly cheaper price. Whilst 3200 MHz frequency RAM will work fine with third gen Ryzen it does impact the performance, therefore unless there are budgetary reasons involved, usually 3600 MHz RAM is recommended. Also, whilst the latency does play a role in performance, it's not as important a factor with Ryzen as memory frequency, (this being the converse of what you would see on Intel processors where latency is often a more significant factor).

As for the X570 vs the B450 chipsets, the X570 boards have been specifically designed to run the new third gen processors, they have the necessary specs to run them and features such as precision boost overdrive to get the most performance from them. Whereas the B450 chipset is a scaled back version of X470, the predecessor to the new X570. These were essentially designed to run the lower end Ryzen second generation processors and don't have the same quality of VRMs for power delivery and certainly not the features to get the best performance from third generation processors. B450 with third gen Ryzen is a compromise allowing you to run your processor on a cheaper board, but once the price of these boards starts to converge there isn't much logical reason to choose the compromise when you can actually have the best boards for the job.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Wow that is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much.

I think I will go with your build since your reasoning all makes sense. My only concern is with the cpu cooler. I am very conscious of noise level. Do you think there is a noctua fan that will fit nicely, or is there a reason you chose the one you did?

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Actually, if noise appears to be the concern, then I would suggest a be quiet! cooler. The reason being the fans on these coolers are specially designed to reduce noise. Given the 3700X is only a 65 watt TDP processor you may not need something quite so huge as the Noctua. Also, that particular Noctua isn't the most modern design.

Be quiet! coolers come in various sizes, the one I'd recommend is the Dark Rock Slim (below), this cooler is designed for processors with a TDP of up to 180 watts, however if you really wanted something with even more cooling potential then the Dark Rock 4 which uses a single large fan is designed for 200 watt TDP processors and the Dark Rock Pro 4 which uses a twin fan design is designed for 250 watt TDP processors.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler $64.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $64.98
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 11:35 EST-0500
  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Since my GPU runs at 215 watt TDP, do I need the Dark Rock Pro 4? I live in a relatively warm climate, so I want to make sure it doesn't overheat. Additionally, I want to make sure it fits.

Also, I was looking into more motherboards and do you think this one would be better: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DxrYcf/asus-prime-x570-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x570-pro

For reference, this is the build I am looking at now: PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $191.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $79.98 @ Amazon
Storage Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $635.00 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $84.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $322.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1949.82
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 13:13 EST-0500
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