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Need a reason to buy vs build z97

Brokeitagain

62 months ago

Hey all, first time posting and new member here. I have a friend that introduced me to this site and now my headache has grown now that I have that many more options. My son wants a gaming rig and I would like to do some light editing with Sony Vegas. We have stumbled across cyberpower and Ibuypower. The latter has the z97 with ok specs but I would like the i7 4790k for editing and over locking if needed. We are on a very tight budget after Christmas so I need to stay under $1000.00. I do have 2 friends that can help me with a build. They have done several builds but their free time doesn't allow me to pick their brains as much as I need. Can someone give me a reason to stay away from this prebuilt? Could I build a better one for the same amount? Here is a link (hope it's allowed) to the z97. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Winter-Special-Intel-Z97-i5

Again, I am new to this site so feel free to blast me, move this post or guide me in any way to make the best choice in building vs buying. Thanks again. Rob.

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  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Here is a link to my build. I don't know how to generate a parts list/build like you guys do here. Thanks for all of the advice and feel free to add some more advice on this build. http://pcpartpicker.com/b/nkm8TW

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

To generate a parts list, click on "View Full Part List Price Breakdown" on your Completed Build page, then click on "Export/Markup" at the upper right corner and copy/paste the text.

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for this, I was wondering how to do the same exact thing :)

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Here's what I'd do:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v2RKMp

A much better build than the one in your link, in my opinion.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $219.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $89.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $116.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $70.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.97 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card $329.00 @ NCIX US
Case NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $64.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ NCIX US
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $1015.70
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-13 15:05 EST-0500

Unless you find a crazy deal, building will usually be cheaper. In this build, I got a i5 4690k, which is enough for editing, and is basically the same as the i7 for gaming. The video card you had in the other computer was a GTX 760.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-760/2577vs2159

As you can see here the 970 blows it out of the water, no problem. Also, the power supply and case are better quality then you would get from the pre-built, and you won't have to deal with those ugly alien-cyber cases. (I personally hate those, and generally they have horrible options for cable management, so a "no go" in my opinion.)

Happy Building! (If you choose to!)

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

the build you linked is 929$ without changing anything. you would have to keep the i5 in it, to stay under 1k. but if you build the tower you can get the i7 you want and a much better gpu vs a gtx 750.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $318.75 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.75 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $92.99 @ Amazon
Memory Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $71.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card $169.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ NCIX US
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $13.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $946.30
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-13 15:10 EST-0500
  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree with this since you did want an i7 and you can even throw in the Gigabyte Z97x-SLI board like in obamadontcare's list for OC capability and still be under budget.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the replies already. One thing I would like to add, I would like the option for an ssd in the future. It would be great to have now but it can be added later.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

is bigger usually better when choosing tower size? I would like to have plenty of room for expansion and aid in cooling. I read that the R9-280A-TDFD is huge, will it fit fine in a mid case?

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

So the idea would be to go with the build that multi-iosstream posted but with the i7 but use the z97 sli motherboard? How about a network and sound card. Any other opinions anyone would like to add? Thanks again for your time.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I would do it like this. Why would you need a sound card ? Are you doing some profesional work? Please more info so we can help. Added USB Wi-fi network adapter.Added SLI/crossfire mobo. Tryed to stay in the 1k $ budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $317.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler RAIJINTEK THEMIS 65.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $19.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $116.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory PNY XLR8 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $54.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card Club 3D Radeon R9 280 3GB royalKing Video Card $174.99 @ NCIX US
Case NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $31.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $13.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) $92.00 @ B&H
Wireless Network Adapter Patriot PCUSBW1150 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $9.98 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $997.88
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-14 13:34 EST-0500
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  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the reply. I do have a 5.1 surround from my old system that I would like to put to use. Curious why you added the royalking over the double diissipation video card. Any reason other than budget? If I were to go slightly over budget, should I go with a case that has fans or is it not really worth it if I bump up another $20-$30? The help here is invaluable by the way.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Sure you can use your old sound card , no problem with that. For GPU no reason other then budget. I know you said budget is 1k $ , but i would higly recommend GTX 970 if you can stretch that extra 200 $. This case comes with 1 120mm case fan and you should buy 1 more 120mm ,1 infront 1 in the back.

Then it would look like this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f8M3Bm

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I've said this to someone else in this forum, but its ALWAYS better to go DIY unless you don't have the time/patience/skills to build your own. Building your own PC gives you more value for your money.

For Example: You're spending a little more with this build, but you get more value in the process.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $219.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $52.98 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card $234.99 @ Micro Center
Case Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case $74.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ NCIX US
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $13.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 @ OutletPC
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $985.65
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-15 03:00 EST-0500
  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok, how would a ga-z97x-ud3h do with a 4790k and a gtx 970 be if I got $40.0@ off the i7?

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Description Well I took most suggestions here and altered (for price) with the help from Micro Center in Tustin and picked everything up Friday. Still using my 7 year old hp 22" monitor for now. Build is done and no issues except for a lot of my programs are showing 32 bit for some reason. Java, Firefox and a few others. Any changes or suggestions you guys would make while I'm still in my 30 exchange/return period? report Part List Component Selection Owner Rating Price Where View Full Part List Price Breakdown CPU Completed Build Photo Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core
$279.99 CPU Cooler
Completed Build Photo Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $36.99
Motherboard Completed Build Photo Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150
$99.99
Memory
Completed Build Photo Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $89.99
Storage Completed Build Photo Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" SSD
$72.99
Completed Build Photo Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
$89.99
Video Card
Completed Build Photo Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X
$329.99 Case
Completed Build Photo NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower $99.99
Power Supply
Completed Build Photo Corsair 750W ATX12V $97.99
Optical Drive
Completed Build Photo Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $14.99
Operating System
Completed Build Photo Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)
$99.99
Total: $1312.89

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