No Matches Available From parametric filter Price: $0.00 - $350.00 Chipset: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Length: 223mm - 403mm

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Not sure I understand the SSHD, I personally would much rather choose a 120gb SSD+HDD

Choosing the 2400G and choosing a discrete GPU here kind of defeats the purpose. The cpu might as well be Ryzen 5 1400 which often is slightly cheaper.

1. The Ryzen 5 2400G already has a GPU capable of light gaming, so if you didn't need integrated geaphics, Why didn't you just use something like the 1500x?

2. The GTX 1060 3GB is plenty at 1080p... Yes, it has lower VRAM and lower core count but the real world difference between the 6GB model and the 3GB model is 5-10% IF THAT. Basically, if the 6GB was getting 60 FPS, the 3GB would get 57..... Not even noticeable. The only game that uses more than 3GB of vram at 1080p is pubg but Tech Deals reviewed it and showed gameplay and it didn't stutter once...

3. You shouldn't buy ANY graphics cards right now because of pricing. But if you do, the price difference between the 1060 3GB and 6GB is over $100 for MAYBE 3-5 FPS

I can understand with the high DDR4 RAM prices, you'll need to limit the amount of memory to 8 GB, otherwise you'll be spending up to $200. The question is with this Ryzen 5 2400G CPU, if you have the graphics memory set to 2 GB plus the O/S using 1 GB or more, you'll only be left with a max. of 5 GB's to run games and programs. Is that enough RAM to run smoothly?

isn't like $90CAN allot for a Power Supply? couldn't you just go with a 500W EVGA?

whats the point of the ryzen CPU with the integrated graphics if you have a GPU?

should use the 1600x 2 more cores and same clock speed

Potential BIOS update for the Mobo. Sounds like more of a pain than the PC is worth.

If people are willing to wait, a company called B & H Photo in NY has computer parts, like that graphics card. It can be found for that price range but, like you said, you have to stay on top of it and be willing to wait to find those deals anymore.

Nice!

I am new to computer and I am really confused about the Potential Issues. Can someone put that in like non computer terms?

I'd swap the storage drive and PSU to something I prefer. Other than that, I approve!

Anyone know some cpu, with the same performance as the Ryzen 5 that will work with the motherboard

Was 1060 brand should we get

Sorry, I'm new to this, can you use a separate graphics card with a built-in one with no problems?

Does the vega 11 graphics support h264... That APU could be a really good option for Streamers if the GPU inside has H264 encoding... If you can't figure this out, maybe I will buy one and see what it can do.

How Consistently are people running into the Gigabyte BIOS APU compatibility problems? I really don't want to order all these parts just to flash the motherboard with another AM4 cpu. Would The Asus Strix edition b350 chipset be a more reliable option? I've also read reviews that the Gigabyte Motherboard is really touchy with Overclocking?

The price for the ram you picked requires Newegg Premier. ~ :(

Great build. I’m very pleased with my 2400G as well. Glad to see others who find the APU to be a nice fit while holding out for a GPU at a decent price.

Its sad that people now cant bui their dream 500$ sistems. I remember when you could easily get a rx 470 for 160$ msrp, a Intel Core i3 6100 etc ... (I didn`t forget the ram prices) :(

I have read earlier in the thread, but just to clarify; The motherboard listed in the build is not compatible with the new Ryzen 5 2400G CPU and will need a BIOs update?

Hey man maybe update your parts list, take out the GPU and mine is 8 dollars more https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GhMXHh

My son plays games like Minecraft and Roblox and uses Quicktime to capture the screen coupled with a condenser mic to capture his voice. Ultimately he uploads these videos to youtube.

Will he be able to get away with this build and have optimal performance considering his main use case? Right now he's on a really old mac and it's really choppy and the rig is about to explode pretty much.

My $500 build is way better!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/agooglygooglr/saved/VP9HNG

Would a GTX 1060 6GB from GIGABYTE work with this build?

Amazon had Gigabyte GT 1030 for about $79 dollars. That would compliment the modest gaming build. Also NewEgg is offering $20 mail in rebate on Ryzen 5 1600. I feel Ryzen 5 1600 is better than 2400G if you are getting your own graphics card.

A tip, watch out for mail in rebates on PSUs. I got EVGA 750 Gold certified for about $89. It is always better to spend a little bit extra for PSUs as you have more options to upgrade when the graphics card prices drop (most likely to be in 2019)

Do you need a graphics card for this build or could you buy it later.

Could I fit some kind of liquid cooling in this case, like the Corsair Hydro H50, and an M.2 drive. I'm a bit worried.

i built this but i but in a 1080 and 16gbs of ram but good list

I'm looking to build a budget computer around this price and based off this build but I'm new to this kind of stuff and wasn't sure on some things.

1) I was wondering if the CPU's integrated graphics would run games like fortnite, league of legends, world of warcraft smoothly (good fps) at the lowest settings whilst I look for a decent priced graphics card.

2) I note the compatibility issue with the CPU and motherboard, I was wondering if there would be an alternative motherboard (don't mind paying extra) that suits the build but eliminates the problem as I'll be ordering to Australia so if shipped from overseas I don’t really want to wait for a replacement CPU to use my PC. Also, I’ll be looking to upgrade in the future so was wondering if there is a better motherboard that allows more upgrades down the track whilst eliminating the CPU issue.

3) Could I add an optical drive to this build or use a different case that fits the build and offers a drive slot and more room to make my first build a bit easier.

Any advice would be appreciated and as I said I'm trying to stick to my budget but I would probably be willing to go another $200aud. over the budget if it will make life much easy for now and the future.

PSU is simply overpriced at $67.39 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B6XnTW/cooler-master-masterwatt-550w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mpx-5501-amaab-us At the time of writing this PSU is generously priced at $33.98 with the same wattage, just no glorified "80+ Gold Certified" plastered on it. This is also a Tier 2 unit, so any concern about this PSU spontaneously combusting is nothing short of paranoia.

Also, the 1060 6 GB is a poor value in contrast to the 1060 3 GB at the moment.

Could I play overwatch on a 4k monitor and stream using twitch? I know that might be pretty demanding on a computer.

and with the monitor, operating system, and keyboard.... its 753.24. nice try. but if you already have those things.... good 4 u.

would this set up allow me to play games such as siege, fornite, pubg adequately? Just curious, I am a newb and am lookin gto set up my first gaming pc.

ehhhh you could easly cut 100 bucks out of the budget. spend a bit more time with pricing out the parts list.

Nice build, it's good that a decent pc can still be built for under 1000$.

From introduction / summary:

We've limited it to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss.

Actual parametric filter:

Speed: DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333

Noticed this a lot on builds - why not just update the article when you decide to update filters?

So is $350 for the gtx 1060 6b good or bad, I new to this and was wondering what price I should wait and by it for

have you used this pc for gaming and what fps dose it run on a game like pubg or Rainbow six

Soooo, can I buy this and build it and be ready to go with a BIOS update without the need for another computer to do the update? This will be my first build and I want to make sure I'm buying a computer from the build guide that will actually work as soon as I buy the recommended parts.

i hate BITCOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!! \ ARRRRGh!!!!

1060 3GB is fine for 1080p gaming; and much more sensible for a modest build.

Mining screwed up the market. These people need to get a job instead of sitting around loud fans from GPU's @100% 24/7, expecting income. If there was a way that Nvidia and AMD could somehow disable their GPU's ability to output Mh/s, GPU prices may go back to normal. For now we are stuck with this Bull-s***.

If i wait on the gtx1060, can i play games like fortnight and csgo in the meantime?

Thinking about making something like this to run games like CS:GO, Ark Survival Evoled and The Isle, first time builder and wondering if theres a way to cut down on the price a bit.

Take a look at this build; I changed the motherboard for a similarly capable but slightly cheaper alternative - it does not have 4 slots for RAM but you likely will never run 64GB of ram on that board, and 1x8 isn't much worse than 2x4 (and the one stick will only be temporary) if that's the only reason you wanted four slots. You did not have a cooler selected so I chose the low-profile Cryorig C7 to fit in your MicroATX case. I changed the RAM because of compatibility issues - Ryzen is picky. I opted for the WD Blue 1TB HDD instead, I suggest you put the money saved on the 2TB HDD towards getting a SSD, if you think you'll use the space however, just change it back. I changed the power supply to the cheapest one that I know is reliable, Corsair PSUs seem to be getting a bad rep lately otherwise I would have suggested the RM550x, any of the three would be fine though realistically. Future upgrades should be a SSD, GTX 1060 6GB and then a second stick of that Vengeance LPX RAM.

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Well, eventually (and really already) the price of crypto will crash. There are a huge slew of reasons why it is just not feasible as a daily currency, or investment vehicle, or really for anything. Mining gets more and more difficult. The only people that mine now are idiots. Theres no money in it anymore as the value relative to cost has gotten so poor.

Right now its all these poor sops mining these no name currencies to get coins worth $0.00007 each, as they comb forums and tell eachother that any day now Randomcoin is going to $28 million each.

The problem is that bitcoin did create some billionaires, who were lucky enough to have 5000 BTC (when it was $5) and were smart enough to see the bubble.

We are still in a bubble. Though I hope it shows signs of popping. Its like exactly any other bubble. My parents made a good chunk of money in the dot com bubble. But its still a bubble. Over exuberent investors trying to make a quick buck. If it was real, you would see uptake a lot faster.

There are technical reasons crypto wont work as well. I can spend a dollar in about 20 seconds. That much bitcoin takes a few hours to spend. This means itll never be useful to buy a pack of smokes at 7/11. You used to be able to game online companies in the same way that tried to do eChecks. Youd make up a reasonable sounding number and ship something overnight. They get out item X the next day, but they don't figure out that the check was bogus for 3 days. Since all the other information was also bogus what are you going to do? Some people call that fraud... Tomato Potato whatever. I of course don't condone such behaviour and would never do such a thing. Nor whould I do the same thing should retailers consider accepting cryptocurrencies in a wide spread fashion.

Also, because blockchain stores every transaction that ever occurs, as a mechanism for proof of stake, it has this problem of...storing every transaction thats ever occured. Which works great when theres just 100,000 idiots out there trading it back and forth for no particular reason. But when its 10 million... a day, or as with say USD 10 trillion a day, it can get a little long. Which just makes the race condition above even worse. But if you don't do it, then it opens up another attack where I can tell you I have 1000 stupid coins, you cant prove I dont, and I spend them and disappear long before you realize it. Bitcoin solved the double spend problem. But it falls apart at scale. And the rest do as well.

So I dont know, I traded stocks long before I learned about crypto. So those of us who came from one to the other know all about how things that go up, can go down, what a bubble looks like, and the dangers of overwhelming optimism. There are lots of teenage computer gamer kids who have yet to learn this (like my brother in law), who this past december could not conceive the possibility BTC might fall (from $19,000) as he piled in all he had. I havent talked to him recently, but I warned him back then. Crypto is currently artificially buoyed by the fact that there is no sell side like there is in most financial instruments. You cant short it like you could stocks. Otherwise Id have shorted the hell out of BTC in Dec and Nov (I even contacted a few brokerages to see if they had a way), and now I'd be too rich to waste time talking to you peasants. And I wouldn't have to come to this page to figure out what I can afford.

So hopefully this ends soon. The problem was simple math. Bitcoin as it became more popular, more people bought it, with limited supply and the inability to take the sell side position (more are only released on a schedule), it creates a squeeze where demand outstrips supply, cranking the cost up. If you could short it, there would be a more elastic market. But the more it went up, the more popular it got, the more people wanted to buy and the more it went up. Even without a penny of underlying asset or value, this would be the case. However, the predictable end is that when you hit a situation when everyone knows about crypto, and no one additionally is coming out to buy, it will all collapse. Which is where we are now. Equities experience tells us we will get a "dead horse bounce" where the price will fall, more buyers will show up thinking its a great deal, and the price will recover. It will create this epicycle (which you can play profitably if you are skilled (or lucky mostly) and big banks will do that now that they are in the game. But each new high will be lower than the last. Since we failed to hit the past highs we know BTC is on its way out anyway. But now we have all these people convinced they will find the next big thing. No current technology works well enough though. And it wont be a secret out of left field like BTC was either. So this will die out.

Not before NVIDIA becomes bigger than Intel though. I am waiting to buy until the 3080 Ti comes out- in 2027. I might be able to afford that one.

BTC rant aside. Theres always eBay. You can get a 1070 for $400 on eBay pretty reliably. So theres always that option.

The performance of the BarraCuda is so close to that of the FireCuda that the extra 40 dollars would be better spent on a 120gb SSD. Otherwise this looks good.

What do u guys think, a Ryzen 5 2400G or a Intel Pentium G4560? the G4560 i hear is a good bang for the buck. Able to tough it out through the workload placed on it and get decent frames. I'll be pairing both with a GTX 1050 Ti 4GB. For the 2400G, it sounds like a great cpu but i doubt ill be running anything using its integrated Vega 11 graphic's (unless ofc u can enlighten me on the other uses of such integrated graphics), but the Pentium runs at a far lower price.

What's the point of getting the Ryzen 5 2400G, if you're going to get a dedicated GPU? Ryzen 5 1500x has more L3 Cache (4 times more) than the Ryzen 5 2400G... On top of that, the Ryzen 5 1600 is only few dollars more, but it has 6 cores and has more L3 Cache.

I understand the concept of getting an APU if a dedicated graphics card is not part of the build, but getting an APU and a GPU kinda makes it useless to get the APU in the first place.

I'll be making something very similar for video editing and general use. I will start out without a GPU just to see what this Ryzen APU can do. and 16gb of ram.

I have question:

"Some AMD B350 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Raven Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions."

How to solve this?

Thanks.

wouldn't go higher than 3.9ghz or 1.375vcore on that board :/

Would any Internal Blu-Ray Burner go well with this?

B u T c A N i T r u N c R I s I s

May i ask what the point of ram at a speed of 3000Mhz is... when your CPU only supports up to 2666...

What if you want to upgrade to a 1080 Ti in a few years? Would you need a bigger case to make it fit? I've been looking into how much a good gaming PC would cost me, and it gets expensive really fast, because I don't have a lot of the needed peripherals. I need a good comfortable mouse, a 4k monitor, a Windows licence, 5 TB to store my games, steam link, and a steam controller.

Personally, I'd switch to a Normal board, not a micro atx and go for a fully modular PSU

Hey guys, first time builder here. Need to build a similar desktop to above, but not for gaming. I'll use it mainly for watching movies and running some desktop apps. I'll always have my opera browser open with at least 10 tabs. My stock trading app does use a good amount of cpu power and RAM. And of course MS office. i do want a combined ssd/hdd hard drive. I have fast 100/100 Fios internet service. what changes to the above parts list would you make? Do i need to buy windows 10 as well? thx

Theres not really a point for the 6GB lol

Why go for a 2400G instead of a 1500X when you have a dedicated GPU? The only real difference besides the price is the iGPU, but with a gtx 1060 it makes no sense to pay the premium for the iGPU.

I bought a 1060 6GB last year before knowing that monitors that support g-sync are way more expensive than those with free-sync. I ended up buying the cheapest 1080p screen that I could find which supports neither. I should have bought a 580.

Why a APU if you going GTX1060, i would prefer a Ryzen 5 1600 for exemple.

I have a question for people who can answer this, I'm kinda new to building PC's and I wanted to know how much storage I need for a decent PC. I don't want it to be crap, but I'm kinda leaning around 2TB of storage, I think 1TB would be too little. I plan on having this PC for a little while and don't want to run out. However couldn't I add another SSD or external storage later if needed.

does that ram work with the ryzen? i paid 1000$ for a 1050 and a ryzen 3 1300x why did i over pay so much

Does the motherboard have the proper BIOSs for Raven Ridge Compatibility

uhm

Hi,

Thanks for listing a great build guide, I was wondering about the RAM that the filter is bringing up. It doesn't seem to be listed in the compatibility for the motherboard which is selected by the filter.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X370-PRO/Memory-QVL-for-AMD-Ryzen-2000-Series-Processors.pdf

Is it that this list is out of date?

Also I was wondering if the new 2600x might work with this build?

good stuff

Wow! Very cool! :3

what about the bios update?

I'm a newb at this, and was wondering if someone would answer a question for me. I was thinking of doing my first build using the 2200G or 2400G for a budget desktop, and light photo and very lite video editing. I was wanting to not have to buy a GPU to keep it a "budget" build. My question is... why buy this APU, and build it with a GPU? Do the two different graphics processors work together, or as I thought I understood it from reading elsewhere, that adding a GPU overrides the Vega graphics in the APU. I understand upgrading to a GPU at a later date if and when prices come down, but why build with a GPU and the APU? Is it because the 2400G is a good processor for the $, that it just seems better than buying a stand alone Ryzen CPU? Did I ramble too much? LOL... as I said, I'm a newb, so just trying to understand all the builds I see with the APU with a GPU. Thanks!

You should swap the 2400g for the 1600 as so many boards are being shipped with old BIOS.

Is there any particular reason you went with the 2400G as opposed to the 2200G for this build in particular?

could i buy a 1050ti with this set up instead of the 1060?

This build isn't worth it. This is better and only $10 more @ base total (including OS and WiFi adapter): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yrt7XP

We all wait for the GPU manufacturers to start creating GPUs specifically designed, packaged and marketed exclusively for mining (some people wont understand the technology is the same). Starting to separate the Graphics Processor industry (even though there is no real technical need to do so at this time). They could technically create variants of each CARD that would appeal to each segment. Miners are making money and as long as that continues more people will use their money to buyout the GPU market. Makes it extremely challenging times for OTHER hardware manufacturers to continue to push the PC industry when ONE SEGMENT is causing delays in supply which can delay customer builds. Maybe all the other segments should gang up on the GPU market... or more Chipset manufacturers need to break into the GPU market and create more supply to meet the demand. First solid company to make this move might give NVIDIA and AMD a run for their money.

I think that there is something wrong with the chipset since on mine it says that there are some incompatibilities.

this build is gold but I live in Canada and well yeah, I have to make my own build since my local staples sells no less than 1000, I built one for more than this. and plus taxes this costs like a thousand lol. But still, anyone who can buy this. do it.

why a 2400g and a gpu?

you Guys should really order from outside your country for better prices for example here in dubai miners dont buy gaming gpus, they buy custom rigs , and the gpu prices are dirt cheap you can find a 1060 6gb for $210 from our online stores ;)

Sweet build. I will most probably be using this as the base for my first gaming desktop. My only queries are: 1. Do I need an additional CPU cooler? 2. If I were to get a 1070 or 1080 in future, is there anything from this build that I would have to change as well? 3. Can CSGO and Dota2 be played at high frame rates on 1080p using this build?

Whats the difference between the Firecuda and the Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive? I know ones a hybrid but I don't know what that means.

Also would an MSI 1050 Ti 4GB work with this build?

The build has a major flaw that was not reported by pcpartpicker.com

the drivers of both nVidia and AMD for the integrated Vega GPU in the Ryzen 5 2400G will cause annoying errors and both drivers will not play nice with each other.

AMD and nVidia are aware of the issue but no fix has been issued yet.

My advise is either ditch the nVidia (since you will not be able to find one in the market already) and just stick with the integrated Vega GPU since it can run Overwatch at 60 FPS medium setting 1080p. or find a Ryzen CPU not APU (AMD call a processor without integrated GPU a CPU, and one with integrated GPU an Accelerated Processing Unit "APU") to go with your GTX 1060

Why would you get the Ryzen 5 2400G if you also have a dedicated GPU? Save a little more and get a Ryzen 5 1600 or save a little and get a Ryzen 5 1400.

tfw built with this version... tfw sad... tfw (that wasnt very cash money of you)

Why did you go with the Ryzen 5 2400g, an APU? Why not go with the Ryzen 5 1600? They're very close in price.

Not sure why one would choose the Ryzen 5 2400G here as the CPU when you have bought a GTX1060. The integrated GPU here is not at all bare bones like the Intel HD ones. The IGPU on the 2400G is actually better than some of Nvidia's lower budget GPU's (i.e. GT 1030 /750Ti and so on) and can run most modern games at > 30fps with some tweaks to the settings. If you wanted a quad core chip, the Ryzen 3 1300X with GTX1060 would have made more sense (cheaper) or go 6 core with Ryzen 5 1600 for a little extra money.

• Noticed in preface that this was an option for someone building a PC while waiting for GPU availability. It is a reasonable option if one is unable to acquire their desired Nvidia or AMD card. My reply in this case should be taken as generic without referencing the Author's reasoning.

Finally! GPU prices are going down! I remember a GTX 1060 6GB costed around $500 last year. All in all, this is a good build. You could spend $20-$30 more on 16GB of RAM and perhaps buy a better looking motherboard though. Also Windows 10 is free so most people don't have to slap a $100 on this build

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in my opinion you should have got a gtx 1050 and upgraded your cpu to intel or other cpu. but hey thats just my opinion.