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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with finding good priced parts."

  • 1 hour ago
  • 1 point

Brand doesn't really matter.

As for the motherboards look at used/refurbished units B150/B250 or H170/H270 are going to be the best bet to catch a deal.

Everyone wants the Z series since they can overclock so they hold price better.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with finding good priced parts."

  • 1 hour ago
  • 1 point

6th/7th generation only work on 100/200 series motherboard so a 360/365 wouldn't work.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ASRock B450M Pro4-F Picasso cpu"

  • 1 hour ago
  • 1 point

You can try calling them and see if they can verify or just get one of the boards that were made with compatibility.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £65.98 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £65.98
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-17 14:44 GMT+0000

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVME v Sata SSD for Editing"

  • 3 hours ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the size of the files being moved and if time matters when your moving the files.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ASRock B450M Pro4-F Picasso cpu"

  • 3 hours ago
  • 1 point

Depends.

https://asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M%20Pro4-F/index.asp#CPU

If it has the P1.40 version or later then Yes it will work.

If not nope.

It'll have a 3000 series ready sticker on the box if it is ready.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "BEDAisy error"

  • 15 hours ago
  • 1 point

It's the anti cheat software.

It gets buggy at times check and see if Windows is allowing it access to update.

And update all your BIOS, network, chipset, and graphics drivers to the newest stable versions.

Only takes one off or out of date driver to cause problems with battle eye anti cheat.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 15 hours ago
  • 1 point

What you provided was a manufacturers description of TDP which was never in question in the first place and had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your initial accusation (literally irrelevant and never contested). This is exactly what i've mentioned time and again.... deliberate deviation from the principal discussion.

No you used it as a selling point in favor of the 3700X when it isn't a fixed number and has no meaning as a selling point.

Referring to the 3800X as poorer scoring after stating they had parity only makes matters worse contradicting yourself.

As for you and your relentlessly disingenuous disposition I find it rather odd that all of a sudden, whilst you continue to make ridiculous assertions, you seek a way out with (praying to the Lord)~like call on Mod thoughtfulness (it kinda sounded like 'intervention pls').

This has been going on for weeks and I'm tired of the PM's asking me to stop and let it go.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 17 hours ago
  • 1 point

I've linked proof already unlike yourself.

Any credibility your word carried was gone with manual tuning=stock settings.

If you want to keep writing chapters hoping nobody realizes you have zero proof backing your claims, and your statement only holds water with chapters in between every line then fine. That's on your head to deal with.

Now again I've already stated we've both taken up enough of the mods time over the weeks so drop it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Single Threaded Performance"

  • 1 day ago
  • 3 points

I was wondering if a Single Core Processor has good Single threaded performance.

Depends on the core being used.

Giving how old a single cored CPU is though best bet is not very capable.

Also, it is stated that Single Thread Performance is run as a single stream in a certain amount of time.

Again depends, sometimes it's a measurement of how much can be run in a given time span, other times it's how long it takes to run a given workload.

This forum is useful to me cuz I have a lot of games to download.

Download speeds are going to fall more under internet speeds, network performance, sustained write speeds of the storage drive, and memory having enough capacity to buffer until the data can be written.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noob Question"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

So long as they are compatible sure.

And it's just swapping it after removing the cooler.

Just don't have the PC running when you make the swap.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Why is my 3960X (stock settings) Cinebench score lower than most reviewers?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Reviews get picked chips sampled to them, and run benchmarks on a system that has been scrubbed so nothing can skew results.

Consumers have to deal with AMD's new binning, and having an actual working system with background tasks.

Take reviews for what they are a best case look at the chips across the board, and focus on your actual performance in what you need the system to do.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Anyone recommend any chairs?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

And there are a reviews with bigger people who don't have an issue with it.

The models are often in stock at their stores so you can check out if it fits if there is one nearby.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Why is my 3960X (stock settings) Cinebench score lower than most reviewers?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Have you adjusted anything with the settings or is it at stock speeds?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Anyone recommend any chairs?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

If your in the U.S. check out the Serta big and talls at Walmart.

Solid quality and comfortable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ASUS x570 Tuf Gaming Motherboard compatible with Radeon 5700 xt Red Devil"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Do you know why this would not be on their the ASUS QVL?

Asus declines to qualify many competitors products.

They want you to buy Asus products so they focus on what makes them money first.

But all PCIe based products have to meet the PCIe standards so there isn't any worries.

and is this a good pairing ?

So long as both meet your goals yes.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Good option for a AMD Ryzen 2700x?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

I've heard some bad things about the TUF product line

On other series TUF is Asus's entry level products, on the X570 they use a comparable power delivery to what is used for the top end ROG Intel boards.

and even heard people complaining about how the chipset blower is awkwardly positioned such that any larger sized video card will impede airflow or create higher than normal operating temperatures.

The placement is true of all X570. The TUF unlike several models doesn't block airflow to the blower fan so it runs cooler.

Has this been proven true?

It's been proven wrong in every review of the board.

Also they use a cheap audio chip in there as well.

Same as any entry level product and all but two full sized B450.

Asus on this at least provides decent shielding and capacitor count which is better then can be said for most popular boards recommended for 3000 series.

When it comes to audio better to have a properly done low end codec then a poorly built high end codec.

I would rather get the Asus prime X570 (even though it appears to have very similar fan positioning) over the TUF in this case, because that is said to be pretty decent.

It's overall a lower quality board but your money to spend, even that is a better quality product then what is available from B450.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best GPU Upgrade (Bang for buck)?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

1660 Super or 2060 would be your next upgrade steps.

Giving up frame syncing and taking on their current drivers isn't worth any slight frame rate difference an AMD card might offer over an NVidia.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "150-200£ GPU for 1500x"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

1660 or 1660 Super are best in that price range.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/dTMTwP,86QfrH/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Get this good deal or go Ryzen?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Depends on what it is for and if you want to overclock.

Some software has a distinct brand favorite.

Overclocking is a joke on Ryzen often losing performance well Intel has significant headroom.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Anyone recommend any chairs?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 4 points

Look for an executive office chair instead of a gaming chair.

Gaming chairs are built around looks and useless features for gaming.

Executive chairs are built for people who sit in them all day focused at comfort and bo distractions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Good option for a AMD Ryzen 2700x?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 3 points

B450

Budget boards built cheap to fit the budget.

A few are adequate for your needs but that is about all that can be said of them from an overclocking standpoint.

X470

Can be hit and miss depending on the specific model.

X570

Honestly even cheap X570 are better then almost all X470 and any B450.

If you plan on using the board for awhile and upgrading on it there really isn't a reason to not pay the little more and get one, it's barely going to touch the overall budget, all are pretty overkill build wise for a 2700X, and get better BIOS support then B450/X470, which is what you want when overclocking a Ryzen.

I would go for a TUF X570

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Compatibility Problems?"

  • 3 days ago
  • -1 points

MSI knows but doesn't consider the chip supported unless it fully works on that platform.

Giving a look at the benchmarks being run with that combo shows and all core boost commonly in the 3.9ghz range which is well under normal all core boost for that model.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-2700/16.html

Its very likely they undid the voltage offset mods put into place after the 2000 series launched so the 2700X could hit max boost clocks, back when the 400 series launched MSI boards had issues with not supporting the voltage offsets that Ryzen heavily overused on the 2700X and a few 2600X.

It may be on paper a good board but something isn't working properly with it and the 2700X.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need advice for upgrading my gpu."

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

Generally by the point that upgrades are needed the platform is dead and upgrading on it isn't worth the money as better options are out.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

If you need a English degree to understand your posts meaning you shouldn't be assuming the poster has one.

In basic terms it still comes across as wrong.

So you should really amend your original post to reflect that.

All you have done here by assuming is make an *** of yourself and me.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will this CPU work if update the BIOS before installing?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

So long as it's updated to a compatible BIOS version yes it will work.

I would do some research on any issues related to later BIOS versions on that board though as the generational transitions haven't been as smooth as could be desired.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Compatibility Problems?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 0 points

Go with a model that shows support for the 2700X.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/6hF48d,XQgzK8,XJbCmG,BHBhP6/

What boards have been tested with that chip show underperforming results, and it makes no sense not to get the best out of what your spending on even if it does work.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need advice for upgrading my gpu."

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

You would gain a little fps more so if you had a Z370/Z390 and could overclock.

But honestly just to gain 10-15% frame rates really puts that into questionable value giving the cost.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Weird GPU Fan problems? (AMD PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT)"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Its software, the problem is it's on AMD's end of the control so there isn't anything you can do when it pops up.

You can try to contact the company and see what they say about the issue since the card should have throttled before shutting down.

But they may just tell you it's a driver issue that AMD is working on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need advice for upgrading my gpu."

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

The max frame rates will be the same since the CPU hard limits frame rates.

The quality settings the 2070 Super offers will be higher at every given frame rate then the 2060.

If you're already happy with frame rates then you will only be happier with higher quality settings.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-9900ks/13.html

Overall there is really not much left to move up to CPU wise and you wouldn't gain more then 16% on average.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 4 days ago
  • -1 points

The only description tied alongside the TDP value is "efficiency" which is a clear-cut indication of thermal efficiency. This is then again clearly signified in the second follow up "efficiency ALONE is an excellent selling point". Let me repeat, after all the selective conceptualisation displayed by you does warrant a child-like approach - so lets repeat that ""efficiency ALONE is an excellent selling point I'm now having to teach you 2 words from the english dictionary - Alone and Explicit. You still have not provided explicit evidence. Put the ego-trip to rest and hopefully common sense will prevail.

Maybe in your mind but to anyone else that isn't how it reads.

You directly mention the 3800X being a higher TDP part with no mention of efficiency.

Keep in mind the 3800X's default TDP is rated at 105w

Then you directly mention efficiency, TDP, and close performance of the 3700X.

whereas the more efficient 65w 3700X delivers pretty much on-par performance

And then.

"efficiency" alone is an excellent selling point for the 3700X opposed to a higher binned power munching and poorly scoring 3800X.

Now this part is both wrong in the 3800X being lower scoring, and misleading after the mentions of TDP and efficiency.

You never once mentioned thermal performance of either part.

"Common Sense" would have you not understanding TDP's meaning making this a simple mistake. Easily understandable after listing the 3800X as a poorly scoring part even though you stated the 3700X was "pretty much on-par performance".

However since you are aware of AMD's TDP meaning not being fixed the way in which you mention it directly when referencing power draw as a selling point switches to misleading through omission in order to push your favored part even to the point of misleading about the 3800X being lower scoring

What is and has been informed as wrong is your deliberately misconstrued claim and then not having anything to back it up. From "all over the site" to nowhere to be found lol

The threads I was thinking of were no longer on the site and were 3600 vs 3600X debates, however since they are no longer here I will take the blame for this.

Don't worry mate, i feel you. You're not alone with the err of the slippy sloppy, i've seen this sort of thing before. I get it, for some it's too hard to concede and make amends. We shall fight your 'holier than thou' disease together until 'thy kingdom comes'

Nope took enough black marks for this so your on your own.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU Advice Needed"

  • 4 days ago
  • 0 points

NOTE: I have never by any means nor explicitly defined TDP to "power consumption", "efficiency" or (equal by the alluded reference) "performance". This is an outlandishly bizarre and down-right foolish claim!! Foolish in the sense that you're essentially accusing me of defining the TDP value to a combined representation of 1) electrical watts, which implies the cooler draws power from the CPU (a preposterous claim), 2) the same value also somehow determines thermal efficiency (God knows how that works), and presumably 3) a measure of clockspeed performance (a dimwitted speculation). This type of imprudent postulation cannot be absent of "explicit evidence".

You did though.

Keep in mind the 3800X's default TDP is rated at 105w, whereas the more efficient 65w 3700X delivers pretty much on-par performance - "efficiency" alone is an excellent selling point for the 3700X opposed to a higher binned power munching and poorly scoring 3800X.

TFP, Efficiency, Performance, Efficiency as a selling point opposed to high power draw and poor scoring part in that order.

No matter what you say that is what you posted even though you have stated multiple times that it is wrong, and I am wrong.

Now you've argued both sides of this to death for weeks one or the other is wrong.

Giving you ended with the 3800X is a poorer scoring part though I would suggest agreeing that the first statement be the wrong one since anyone can check benchmarks for that being wrong.

I also many times asked for "explicit evidence" which is relative to your second outrageous claim where I am charged with misrepresenting TDP all over the site. “All over” clearly suggests that you have several or a ton of examples to bring forward. Until today, completely ignoring my countless requests, you have provided ZERO evidence. This outrageously adventurous CLAIM, absent of substantiation, corroborates with my earlier thoughts:

Maybe I was wrong about that drinking and posting can lead to mistaken identities.

But it doesn't change what you posted and it is either a mistake or misleading people into thinking TDP is anything other then a marketing figure.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Weird GPU Fan problems? (AMD PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT)"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Fan control of Radeon cards has been hit or miss since Vega.

Some drivers it works on some cards, some all cards, some you just live with it and no cards work.

Navi has taken the issue to a whole new level sadly but AMD has said again they are looking into it.

https://youtu.be/pboDbxogSw4

Part of the problem is AMD rolling out firmware fixes as part of the driver package which stays when you revert to older drivers.

Maybe within a couple months it will work again hopefully longer then a driver version or two.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RTX 3000s series"

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

So the rumors say.

They also say AMD will be dropping a new Navi generation.

And Intel will be launching as well.

But we have a little less then twelve months before we know everything for sure.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best Micro ATX MB For People Who Do Not Plan to Overclock"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

The gigabyte DS3H is a commonly used low end B450m, might be fine but I haven't used it myself

Not terrible and not great.

Only one fan header but at least that is a 2a fully configurable header.

MSI may or may not have two headers but even two headers isn't enough for most builds, so your still spending on splitters or a hub, and those headers are all 1a headers.

The Gigabyte audio implementation is also fairly solid for such a low end board and you actually need to invest in higher end gear before it starts showing its cheaper.

It isn't a MATX form factor though so can look bad in some cases being undersized.

Outside of overclocking it's really not at a disadvantage against the other options and I would take it over the Pro-M.2 since it at least has a heatsink.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some advice on CPU suggestions"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Best bang for you buck is going to be running that 6600K until it no longer does what you need it to.

Otherwise your just wasting money already spent.

Recommended specs are put out well before the game launches or is polished and optimized so don't actually apply to the end product.

Its always best to ignore them until benchmarks are available.

Looking at upgrading path.

Intel's platform is dead ended now, with a new platform for the next two generations coming sometime this year.

AMD's dead ends this year with a new platform launching next year.

Anything you buy now is already going to be outdated before you need to update on a current platform which really limits longevity for upgrading so it can safely be ignored.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best Micro ATX MB For People Who Do Not Plan to Overclock"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

It's not going to matter.

Intel side there are some B/H series motherboard with a high end feature set.

Which is why I asked.

AMD side all MATX are cut rate for features and options, with no overclocking on a mid core count even power delivery isn't going to matter much.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New CPU/GPU"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Because I don't want to buy all my parts in Feb and then new CPUs and GPUs come out a few months later.

That will happen if you wait or not.

New launches are always right around the corner.

It's a marketing tactic to make people feel left behind so they upgrade if they need to or not.

So build when you need, and know it's going to be outdated sooner then you want, even if you wait and preorder the very next launch.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will I be able to use these SSDs together?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-E/specifications/

M.2 shares bandwidth with the Sata Express you have 6xSata ports other then that free to use.

So no worries.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best GPU for 400$?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

Giving the 1080p@60hz monitor you won't really benefit from more then a 1660 Super.

Take the extra money and buy a decent case and power supply before worrying about overkill graphics cards.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Drivers?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

It's a Navi and even after months they haven't managed to get the main features working properly in everything.

Just forget Enhanced Sync even exists and try the titles options if you get screen tearing.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel For My Applications"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Giving Ryzen takes a 30-40% performance hit to stream, and even a 9900KS without streaming isn't assured to hold frame rates that high, that was never truly on the table as an option for everything.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel For My Applications"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

Flip side of that though is it's a very very very good multi tasking CPU on a very capable platform.

I would put gaming, streaming, and running a 24/7 server all at the same time more needing a heavy multitasking CPU then a gaming or streaming CPU.

Not a normal need for sure but Threadripper wasn't built for normal needs either.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel For My Applications"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

I know I figured I would list the reason for the question.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How long will the RTX 2060 be good for 1080p?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

As long as developers don't increase graphics requirements to run those settings at that frame rate in their title.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel For My Applications"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

I've already put in my two cents on this but.

Just gaming you want dual channel to avoid frame rate issues.

Just streaming well gaming you need dual channel.

Just running the server well gaming you need dual channel.

Trying to do all three at the same time? Dual channel just isn't going to cut it and you'll suffer from stuttering and dropped frames.

It isn't as much a CPU side issue as a platform problem for this type of heavy multi-tasking.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Elder Scrolls VI"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

If you expect a Bethesda title to be polished, finished, or perfect at launch your always going to be disappointed.

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