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Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD FX-9590"

  • 10 hours ago
  • 1 point

Though I would take data from userbenchmark with a grain of salt especially with how they translate the numbers and weights of tests for the end score:

They had a bug where 8-cored CPU were receiving double scores for both AMD and Intel.

The 3990WX never should have been their most highly ranked CPU for gaming as it was before the change.

Giving that AMD has limited multi-core scaling by prioritizing two or four cores depending on the model to receive almost all the workloads, and Intel is slated to do the same with 10th gen, it's not totally off base for them to keep using one and four threads as their primary metrics when both CPU companies are limiting multi-cores into a select few.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD FX-9590"

  • 12 hours ago
  • 1 point

They still do.

Look in the footnotes for every graphics card release and you'll find RTG only uses Intel platforms for performance testing.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "X570 Bios Updates"

  • 12 hours ago
  • 1 point

You shouldn't need to.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PC build under $800"

  • 12 hours ago
  • 1 point

Do you need everything or just the tower?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "X570 Bios Updates"

  • 14 hours ago
  • 1 point

F10 and F11 are supposed to also contain security mitigations along with improved PCIe compatibility so they are probably worth upgrading.

As for newer, AMD is supposed to be working on getting the next generations framework ready so they can roll out 4000 series which ends optimization updates for the 3000 series models.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is there any way to get my Windows 10 license from microsoft.com? I don't have the PC or the disc box anymore."

  • 14 hours ago
  • 1 point

Contact Microsoft's customer service and see if they can find it for you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Acer VG240Y vs. AOC G2590VXQ"

  • 14 hours ago
  • 2 points

That one at least shows a Display Port so your not locked to AMD if you want to use the frame syncing tech.

Newer monitor though so not any professional reviews for it yet though.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Acer VG240Y vs. AOC G2590VXQ"

  • 15 hours ago
  • 2 points

Between those get whichever is cheaper.

You have an IPS panel with TN color quality versus a slightly above average TN panel.

Neither is worth paying more for.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD FX-9590"

  • 15 hours ago
  • 1 point

It's an overclocked FX 8350 that gets trashed by quad cored Intel models in almost all workloads.

Don't bother with it unless you want to burn out some motherboards for grins and giggles.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU usage question"

  • 16 hours ago
  • 1 point

14 is always at 100% and the rest barely register. Is this normal for one to always be high and the rest vary based on what I’m doing?

That is normal for a 3000 series.

AMD arranged for Windows to prioritize specific marked cores for all available workloads.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15137/amd-clarifies-best-cores-vs-preferred-cores

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I just don't know."

  • 17 hours ago
  • 1 point

Any header but the CPU header so those would be fine.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I just don't know."

  • 18 hours ago
  • 1 point

Not dumb just lacking knowledge on the subject.

And it will plug into any of the fan headers.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I just don't know."

  • 18 hours ago
  • 1 point

That's an unpowered splitter so it pulls all its power from the motherboard.

A fan itself running static doesn't pull much power.

Since the motherboard only reads it as one fan it applies the power to ramp up one fan but that doesn't work so it keeps upping the power until they hit the desired speed.

Problem is you can trick the motherboard into burning out the header if it isn't configured with over current protection which isn't very common these days.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I just don't know."

  • 18 hours ago
  • 1 point

Any of the Chassis/WP or the CPU/WP headers, all are 2a/24w headers.

The CPU header is a low output 1a/12w header so you don't want to really push that one.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Acer VG240Y vs. AOC G2590VXQ"

  • 18 hours ago
  • 3 points

Flip a coin sadly looking at reviews.

IPS is generally stated as having better color accuracy but that doesn't hold true for green and black ranges.

It can also have oversaturation of colors leading to more eye strain unless you work with the settings loosing most of the advantages over other panel types.

TN generally has poor viewing angles which only matters if it isn't the primary screen, and poorer color accuracy on many panels.

But is cheaper so you tend to find better quality panels used even in low end products then IPS or VA.

Both are low end budget panels that only have Freesync over HDMI which is buggy at best. And you get what you pay for these days sadly.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Faster memory or supported memory?"

  • 19 hours ago
  • 1 point

I'm not sure if its worth going with the Crucial Ballistix RGB White 3600mhz cas 15 16Gb kit or the Corsair 3000Mhz car 16 White VengeanceRGB Pro kit.

Older generation parts can struggle with speeds over 3200, so you are likely to not get the most out of the 3600 kit, or find yourself loosening timings on it to the point its a performance loss over a slower kit trying to reach full speed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Stress Reduction"

  • 21 hours ago
  • 2 points

Don't play with the parts after initial inspection to ensure everything looks good.

Then go fishing or something so you don't break your build playing with parts.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "B450 for AMD 3600 with aRGB-Headers"

  • 21 hours ago
  • 1 point

I only plan to do a mild OC of the CPU (all cores) and RAM (XMP) but I want a stable board that can handle it. ANy help would be greatly appreciated.

Overclocking is so limited that you can lose performance over the stock boost clocks even on golden samples.

On average to poor samples the poor cores hold back both stock boost clocks and overclocking equally so there still isn't anything worth gaining.

So of those provided you can get all with 3000 series ready BIOS you will have identical performance.

Audio wise I wouldn't count out the Steel Legend either, although it uses an older codec to save money ASRock does a solid job with implementation making it competitive with any other integrated sound.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "why is everything so much more expensive"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Most Canadian supply is routed through the U.S. ports so they double up on downsides.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "When to build new PC to replace old build?"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Replace the build or limiting part when it no longer suits your needs.

That being said don't look at RDR2 as a typical title either since it's a terrible mess of a game from optimization standpoint.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "9900K"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

You likely wouldn't be accessing more then one drive at a time heavily so it really isn't going to matter much.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "9900K"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

For full bandwidth on each no you would run out of lanes.

Now would you actually notice a difference is another matter. It is likely wouldn't even be noticeable unless you're moving data between the SSD on a time sensitive workload, well using the GPU to the fullest, in a I'm better then other unspecified user benchmarking run.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nvidia cards on freesync"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

I’ve heard newer Nvidia cards work fine on these types of monitors now but I’ve also seen conflicting opinions about it.

They work so long as the monitor supports frame rate syncing over Display Port or has a HDMI that supports VESA VRR specs.

The conflicting reports are coming from people who find that "Freesync" doesn't always work, but that holds true for both companies cards and they don't work with Radeons any better.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "5700 XT Noctua Fan replacement"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

I know it's not what you want to hear but as one of my southern friends would put it "Throwing a tux on a hog don't change it's a hog".

Once you consider the extra for the Gaming X+fans+LM it's really not saving you anything.

Freesync Monitor wise it's going to work properly or not it doesn't matter which companies card is being run.

Also have you considered dropping to a 1440p@75hz monitor since you want 30"+ size that right there will save you a ton.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "5700 XT Noctua Fan replacement"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Also, the issues with using a freesync monitor and a gsync card are something I'd rather not deal with.

Ummm its already been shown multiple times over by everyone who has tested Freesync on NVidia cards that the monitors that have problems have problems with All cards not just NVidia.

So going AMD isn't going to save you from those problems you will still have them.

You just don't hear as much about it since AMD has such a small market share.

And that is before you get into Navi based products have issues with Freesync.

AS for the NAVI issues, could you specify?

Cards are still Blue Screen Of Death, black screen faults, crashing drivers, failing to wake, inconsistent/broken/or causes stuttering with Freesync enabled, list goes on and on.

You can go through the AMD known issues list and they keep dropping faults without listing fixes, or showing a fix only for it to get moved back to known issues a driver or two later.

Your trying to save money and avoid issues but this path is likely to cause more issues then it saves you from.

Reading though this it seems your trying to live outside your viable budget and you should reconsider what you can afford.

If you need the better card to give your desired quality settings and frame rates at that resolution drop to a 2700X, 2600, 1600 "AF".

If you can't have the monitor you want along with the build, then own up to what you actually have to work with and compromise on the refresh rate or resolution.

But going with a $420 card only to add another $40+ worth of fans when your already outside your budget really doesn't make sense.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Reverse Airflow??"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

Dust buildup can be worse depending on the case and most cases aren't built around that style of airflow.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "SFF Cases"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Haven't worked with that one but very interesting.

Worked with their N-1 which was different since you can fit 120mm tower coolers even though rather small.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Honestly I don't think they have a fixed design yet which is why the rumors are all over the place.

Ever since Pascal NVidia has designed architectures to be modular so they can develop one design and scale down as needed.

They have probably run multiple test configurations to ensure scaling and design limitations as well as iron out architecture issues.

As soon as AMD decides what they are doing with Navi 2, NVidia can choose the best core sizes and the entire line-up is established off of the test configurations.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Memory errors"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

If it doesn't crash you should be fine.

It's kind of a rough spot when the go to test is hit and miss on the entire family of CPU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "SFF Cases"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

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Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Probably more like the 20 series/16 series split we have now.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

I don't see them dropping the RTX branding, running multiple Titans with different cores, or keeping RT cores on the lower end models.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 0 points

Clickbait sites are never a good source for information.

Let alone one that has a record for being wrong far more often then right.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Memory errors"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

Memtest doesn't always work properly with Ryzen.

Best guess because of the variable latency makes it look like a fault but is just a slight delay causing a lose of synchronization with the base clock.

I've run into a few which would run rock solid with zero crashes, but couldn't pass a memtest at any speed even default 2133mhz.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

If you look they always try to get at least two SKU per core so failed cores can be recycled instead of trashed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Maybe if the yields are high enough to ensure profitability and they thought they had a market for it.

There are tons of rumors around about how great this new generation will be, but NVidia has always shown they are only going to make it just enough of an upgrade to get people off of 2-3 generation old hardware.

AMD is off by themselves dealing with launch issues 8 months later and positioning new products to fight older AMD products.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Why would NVidia launch a 3070ti?

They only launched a 1070ti because AMD managed a competition at that level.

Same with the Super series it only launched when AMD was prepping Navi.

AMD has only managed to trade blows with the fully enabled TU106 using more cores and a process advantage to do so.

A refresh of the same architecture isn't going to magically manage a complete reversal of what Navi is and isn't.

When they do launch it will likely be the same all over again cut down models across the board so if they do need more competitive products they can just relaunch the same old cores without as much locked down.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Since there hasn't been a xx100 or xx103 core in generations it isn't based on a trend.

What is a trend is NVidia moving models down the line using more failed cores so they can rerelease updated ti/Super models if AMD manages a competition.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "5700 XT Noctua Fan replacement"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Why buy a Gaming X+fans, kill your warranty with the modding, all to still face having Navi's issues, when you could buy a 2070 Super for close to the same money and have better performance?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "NVIDIA Ampere Speculations"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

Those are very unlikely figures.

NVidia is more likely to start the 3070 on a full GA106 core/cut back GA104, and the 3060 on a cut back GA106, until AMD manages a comeback then moving both up to the GA104 cut down/full'ish GA106 like they did with Turing.

Saves money for them and they have no competition now that AMD will no longer have the process advantage and requires more cores to get equivalent performance.

Without either AMD or Intel bringing competition above the mainstream market you'll never see massive improvements like that in the upper models.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is This Motherboard Compatible With Ryzen 3000?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the BIOS version you get.

New production yes.

Older production some mom and pop store is selling through Amazon probably not.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 5 3600 (what GPU would go well with this for 1080p streaming and gaming) 700-900 build."

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

For the GPU, does VRAM matter?

No because of this.

I was going to use an 8gb, but 6gb seems better in some cases.

VRAM is frame buffer, without the core to fill it all it does is eat power and do nothing.

Look at the performance of the card not the VRAM.

And for a build like this, should I use a Ryzen 7 2700x or a Ryzen 5 3600, cheaper may be the better option for a budget

For Streaming and Gaming the 2700X is the better buy, free title still for gaming, and more cores to use when streaming.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gtx 970 vs Radeon 6870 Sapphire"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

970 hands down.

AMD hasn't supported the 6000 series in years so performance is a joke these days even if the hardware is still capable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600 w/2080 bottlenecking?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

An RTX 2080 or even the super version being paired with only a 1080p display. Those video cards are powerful enough to render so much more than a mear 1080p screen can show so it seems the real bottleneck here is going to be the screen itself.

With RTX maxed out your limited to 1080p for decent frame rates even with that level of GPU performance so its still down to settings the user runs.

As for cooling the hyper 212 evo isn't the cooler I would choose

They aren't using a Hyper 212 EVO they are using the RGB.

It uses an updated fin array, coating, top cover, RGB air balance fan, base, and mount making it a 212 only in name.

Runs around 4c warmer then something like a Dark Rock 4 with normalized fan speeds but slightly cooler although louder under PWM operation.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-rgb-silencio,5967-2.html

The change also improves thermal dissipation so dual fan models are viable again as the MA410M shows in the review which uses two of the same fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600 w/2080 bottlenecking?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

212 will do the job.

As for the max graphics there isn't a way to tell.

Overwatch is getting revamped to come close to OW2.

CS.GO is supposed to be getting revamped.

APEX is supposed to be getting an update at some point for graphics as well.

Minecraft is even getting revamped.

All are planned to be updated for the next generations consoles.

It'll last as long as it lasts is about all we can say these days.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gpu crash, compability issue?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

You can report the issues to AMD.

Sadly AMD has been really letting driver quality slide.

Issues since Vega FE reported several times.

https://youtu.be/pboDbxogSw4

AMD may still roll out fixes, but the Vega line is all end of production, so don't expect everything to be fixed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600 w/2080 bottlenecking?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

All depends on the monitor and what part you choose to bottleneck with quality settings.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gpu crash, compability issue?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Could this be a compability issue from other components?

You can try using DDU to get rid of all driver files before reinstalling.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Newer AMD drivers are supposed to do this anyway but haven't always been on top of it.

And making sure your running the latest stable BIOS and chipset drivers.

AMD has been more focused on rolling out newer features and newer products then compatibility and ongoing support for existing features even on newer products.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Corsair vengeance RGB pro 3200 vs 3600 better timings for 3466 board"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Bit of a toss up the 2600 has a very hit and miss track record for handling speeds in excess of 3200.

You board is also likely to need manual timing to hit speeds over 3466 and won't recognize XMP profiles.

If you want a better chance for plug and play operation go for the 3200 kit, if you don't mind throwing several multiple hour stress tests into dialing in memory overclocks then go for the 3600 kit just be aware you may be spending $3 more for no gains.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ideal Size For OS & Steam"

  • 3 days ago
  • 4 points

Depends on the library size.

If you have room left on the drive with both then it isn't an issue.

If you are maxing out the drive then 1tb isn't enough.

Giving the prices on a 970 plus though you can get a 2tb SSD though which is likely the better option.

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