I've done a test on both 2.4 and 5 now. With both my desktop and a Surface Pro 4. When I have them set to "auto" they prefer to be on the 2.4Ghz side, so I have to force them to 5Ghz.
Desktop 2.4Ghz = 60mbps, 5Ghz = 50mbs
Surface 2.4Ghz = 60mbs, 5Ghz = 130 mbs. I get fairly consistent results with walking around the house and only finally starts to drop of as physically far away as I can be, getting down to 80mbs on 5Ghz.
My router has the channels set to auto, on using one of the wifi analyzer apps can see the 2.4 channel is set somewhere that appears to have the least traffic my peak is straddling over a valley of other on channel 9. If something drops off I've seen it slide over open channels. Approximately 4-8 signals show depending on what is getting picked up.Signal strength here shows my router at approx -40 dBm. Switching to the 5Ghz spectrum I don't get any other wifi signals showing up , my router signal strength is showing in the range of -80 to -70 dBm
QoS is set to off
I did some tinkering on the router and did set to 'N' only in the process to give that a try, it was set to auto before.
Add an onboard wifi /AC or /AX to your search criteria, looks like that starts at $180 for the cheapest x570 per your build, so +$50, maybe those check all your boxes. I use onboard on an ITX board for years and I can't really complain. Just don't expect much more than maybe 30-40mb/s download speed in a speed test if you have internet that exceeds it. If you share the wi-fi with several other people in your apartment the signal will be 'diminished' as the router is communicating with everyone else's devices.
Looks great, nice job
Got everything loaded onto the 4770 computer ...and....maxes out at 15% CPU usage even after switching the reverb back and throwing some extra compressors and limiters on the master.
I've got 19 tracks between drums and one guitar so far, a few sidechain channels amounting to 125 FX which clocks to 80-100% cpu usage, and showing 5.5 gb of ram still free. I switched the reverb I was using on 2 sidechain tracks and it helped. If I throw anything on the Master it dies. I'll have to get this other computer setup.
Media buffer size 512ms, prebuffer 100%
Anticipate FX processing - render ahead 200ms (default)
48k sample rate block size 512
I just started recording in my basement for my band about a year ago. I use Reaper as my DAW. My interface is a Focusrite 18i20 2nd gen and and I have a Presonus Digimax D8 preamp for 16 mic channels of input. Connected with USB 2. I do everything else in the box.
I stick to the free plug-ins because I'm not professionally making money doing this to justify spending tons of money on plug-ins where it can mostly be accomplished with the free stuff I can find.
I haven't gotten to a full count of tracks on a song yet but my computer has started to get bogged down by the plug-ins hitting 100% CPU usage, so I won't be able to push much farther into a final mix. Still need several more guitar tracks, bass track, keyboard and vocals. It doesn't have any problem recording the tracks when doing everything live, but started to notice some latency if trying to record guitar with DI and using a plug in or amp sim for distortion during playback of the drum tracks ever with all drum FX turned off. There 1 or 2 of those plug ins that really hang the loading time on Reaper so I may uninstall those, but one sounded really good on my bass drum track.
My computer being used is my previously retired build from 2008 of Intel Q6600, 8GB ram, hard drive is 7200rpm. I was hoping this would hold up.
My current desktop I use for everything else has a 4770, and 16gb ram, SSD boot drive and 7200rpm hard drive. I will be swapping this to be the recording computer when it gets upgraded. I'll also convert to a 500+/- gb SSD for better access speed. I'm hoping that will help with the latency a bit and the wall I am hitting with the FX on playback.
Sketchup is low intensity as far as 3D goes on system requirements since it doesn't natively render or have artificial light sources. You need a decent amount of ram for large models. Other modeling programs require more cores because when they render as they can render different parts of the image simultaneously
I've got a lot of mods on Skyrim and a bunch of downloaded content for Cities Skylines, but that's about it, no databases. The pricing on the blue drive is killing it, only (3) 1tb drives showing that would save any money. A single drive would also keep it on the front of a mobo now that most of the mini itx boards have a slot there for better cooling/ airflow. I would do secondary/less accessed stuff on a back one.
Thanks for noting your experience. And these results looks pretty negligible.
Hybrid GPU are cool, I''d have to figure out somewhere for the radiator to go. With current trend, the step from 1070 to 1080 keeps reducing....Price of the 1070 Asus and the first 1080 Asus is only +$50
We'll have to see what Coffee Lake pricing is like, with Kaby hitting $300, will it go lower, or is Coffee going to be more expensive that Kaby was on release because it has more cores. Not going to purchase that tomorrow with an imminent release.
Only things that appear to be options as far as HDD goes would be 1. bigger cache. 2.The internet says Black is faster, but like you said- is it even noticeable. 3. Something like a Firecuda hybrid drive wouldn't be effective here either because it's still fetching the data the first time, the stuff on the HDD often isn't the same data?
I'll have some general case lighting . This board has the light up edge, but not sure I'd use that. So yeah otherwise the ram was the only thing with lights. I wasn't going to do any LED fans or anything. If the cost doesn't align well (currently doesn't, but has been competitive in the past) then I'd stick with the normal sticks.
I should have left the case off since I'm investigating fabricating something, it was meant to be a placeholder. I've been playing around with component layouts in sketchup to minimize the volume and the SFX plays a part in that. The blower styles seem to be the correct cooling concept for small cases; dumping the air out, but I'm concerned about noise and heat from the single fan.
Ok, some more research and leaning towards the i3-4160
Also switching the GPU to either the EVGA 960 or 950 with a $30 difference. That Asus just looks too loud and hot off the bat.
Looking to make some purchases today before some deals expire. Should still be under the goal of $600.
Any other feedback?
I saw those lian li and thought they looked great, too, but yeah... that 202 comes with a power supply for less. Projection completion the build by the end of the month, so parts me be holiday gifts so, hoping that the new fractal comes out by then. Was considering the rvz02 and ML07 as runners up. It's going to go on a shelf in a cabinet, where boxier options won't fit. (my other pc is a node 304)
I had skipped over the i3 assuming I'd need to go straight for an i5 and that appeared to increase cost substantially. I'll take a closer look at i3 as an option.
The A8 7600 vs the 860k, I only was able to find a small increase in performance to the later, is that right? That's why I initially selected the A8. Only a $2 difference, I was concerned about the wattage increase from 65-95 and the heat that might produce in the small case? I was just ignoring the graphics part of it, like on my Haswell.
Thanks for the 950 vote, I'm going to keep looking at those, too.
Thanks for the comments.
If it's just for gaming, there's not much benefit beyond 8gb as games don't use it yet. If you did the 2x4, that mobo still has 2 slots in it for future expansion years from now when something comes along that demands more, but maybe you'll be building something new by then. Might save you $20-$30 in the short term.
If you get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, it comes with thermal paste as shown in the accessory image on the MFR's website ( the small purple syringe)
You should get all of the cables you need included with this set up
I personally think saving $200 and going with a 970 over the 980 would be worth looking at if you hadn't already.
-I own a 760 and was eye balling upgrading to a 970, but the 760 still does great.
Without an overclockable CPU, watercooling would not be necessary. You would not be watercooling the actual motherboard either, there are certian high end mobos built for overclocking where you can include them in a custom loop. Just about any after market coolers will perform better than the stock intel unit, but you can find cheaper air options that help lower the temp well enough, and some better that some closed loop systems, so it would not have to be watercooling.
Yes you can have different things on different monitors, select 'extend these displays' instead of 'duplicate this display' on your display settings. Sometimes things get picky, like if you're playing some games in full screen mode, you can't take your cursor out of that screen, but if you were playing a movie/tv on a different monitor, that would continue. Alt-tabbing or can get you to the other programs on the other screens. Generally speaking anyway.
From anything I ever saw, W7 was not good with touch, it can work, but it wasn't great. So I never tried.
There's a white Asus gtx960 on sale at newegg for $150 after rebate, roughly the same cost as the 950 you have selected https://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-turbogtx960oc2gd5 have you checked out this card?
I've never heard of "Club 3D", I just purchased the Asus 760 myself
Just read your article and this was a follow up
This is unfortunate. I bought one of their drives last year after reading many reviews that rated it very highly, partially due to that fact they had a proprietary controller on it instead of the sandforce that was causing all sorts of errors at that time. I haven't had any issues with the drive.
Toshiba is not on the top of my list of MFRs so I guess the next time I purchase a SSD it may be from one of the others, but that will be awhile.
I have AVG and Malware Bytes, both are free for download.
I hate McAfee and Norton. I had McAfee once a long time ago and I could never get it off my computer, it was like the plague. I have Norton at work and it chews up resources.
Revit system requirements:
Few tips: more CPU cores, good amount of ram, and more CUDA cores on the GPU would be good starts.
Here's what I have planned for my computer that I'd like to run both of these on. I've got a few days until it is built, my mobo is in the mail.
I think this is the best looking Node build I've seen, very clean. Great job, the window in the top looks nice.
Anyone else have comments on the mobo selection?
Thanks for the feedback. As far as impact goes, it's about $85 more than the asrock. I'd like the sound card, but I don't have one now, so it's not something I would miss. It is also one of the best lay outs. However, the impact and deluxe are mostly high end overclocking features, which as you noticed I won't make use of due to the CPU. Asrock also appears to have equivalent's of several of the Asus added features (things gigabyte and msi didn't)The impact also doesn't have a DVI, so if my video card is out of commission I would need an adapter to do anything. (not trying to dump on asus, my current computer has a asus mobo in it.) They just appear to not have an equal at the same price point. I didn't know that having the same GPU and mobo mfr would make booting quicker. I was also considering the EVGA760 with their 2 fan cooler.
I wasn't sure about crucial I had seen some bad reviews, but I have a search for about 10 different models from 4 mfrs, I wasn't too attached to the brand. I've added crucial to see where they stack up. I'll probably snag something on black Friday or cyber Monday.
I'm also looking at the Seagate drives, they run quite a bit cheaper than the WD.
The case was also kind of a place holder I carried over from an matx set-up. I'm leaning towards the Cubitek mini cube http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=82033&vpn=CB-MNI-B004&manufacture=Cubitek but it's not listed on this site. I like that it has cable management. I'd like to mod it for a slot optical drive and put a window in it.
Why go with the impact when you have a mATX case picked? You can get the Gene and shave off 10%, generally the same performance, and leave some room for expandability.
Looks fairly similar to what I'm building. If you're looking to cut some cost, you could probably get away with a 128GB ssd. And I could be wrong but that power supply may be way more than you need. You might save another $20 with something a bit smaller. Check it's requirements and some of the online calculators.
If you're limited to that 250GB ssd, you'll find yourself running out of room quick if you do anything else with this, you may want to add another drive.
I swapped out the MOBO from before. I'm leaning towards ASRock Z87E-ITX. As one of the main goals was reducing size. The trade off being no dedicated sound chip on board and no free expansion slot (vs mATX). This has a mPCIe slot on the back if I wanted to a boot drive or something later on other than the SSD I already have.
Glowing plate looks cool, I was thinking I would try something like that in my build as well.
If you're not overclocking why are you going with a 4770k? save yourself the $30 and get the 4770. Or if your just gaming with it, something with less cores?
I either got my copy of W7 from newegg or amazon. Price doesn't fluctuate much on that from my experience. I think there was a -$15 sale when I got it. This was pre-W8 release.
The EVO you have listed is regarded well as a quality lower budget, $30 is the going low price. It completes with lots of coolers that are twice the price, even on overclocked machines, so it would be more than enough for the processor you have selected.
I'm not familiar with the GPUs that are in the $150 price range so can't comment to that
The 650w is overkill what what I'm building as well, but better to have the clearance. They don't use the power if they don't need them. If you're not looking to buy within a week keep your eye's peeled for that one on sale. I'm assuming you get the promor email codes. The graph looks like it dips about once a month in price, but it just passed.
The cooler is mostly for looks and trying to be quieter, I was trying to pick out something that was more modest because I didn't need the full ability of high end coolers.
I'm trying to evaluate what I can scale back on to get away from those top tier boards.
This is the one I got http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss650km 650W, gold rated, modular. It's frequently on sale on Newegg, I got it for $80 after MIR. They also have a platinum 660 and some platinum fan-less designs at 520W and under but I didn't do much research into those models. They may be newer or not in my price range, don't recall.
Yeah, I was finding that in order to get one of the features I was looking for on the MOBO, I would have to pay for 2 I didn't need. I know I don't need the fancy power resistors or the power daughter boards, trying to avoid that if I can.
The cooler is partly for aesthetics, looks cleaner to me than the big fin stacks. My stock cooler is the loudest thing in my case now, and I've seen this new one will also be loud, so I'm looking for 3rd party, but don't need to go high end with it. The evo is impressive for what it is and at it's price though.
I was previously looking at the 7870 when I was looking to upgrade the GPU. That was before the 760 was released. I think the 760 is slightly better. My recent experience with the ATI I have was making me lean towards Nvidia this time around. The 7870 recently price dropped, and I think the 760 will be by the end of the month. I haven't ruled out a 7870 entirely though as that price break is attractive. Thanks for the reminder.
PSUs I most often see recommended are Seasonic, Corsair, and Antec. I've also read that Seasonic makes the majority of the units that are rebranded by the other 2 as well as other brands. I recently purchased a Seasonic for that reason and am Pleased with it.
The ports on the front of the case get connected to the board via a cable. Just make sure the ports included on the case are USB 3.0 and the USB header on the board are 3.0 if you want to take advantage of that speed.