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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gigabyte Radeon 5700 XT"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

All PCIe generations are backwards compatible. The connector stays the same. Only difference is speed of the interface. Which will not affect gaming performance at all since I don't think any standard off the shelf gaming GPU has maxed out PCIe gen 3. As far as slots go it won't matter much. It will just block the two connectors below the one you use for the GPU. So you will lose 2 of your 3 PCIe 1x slots. But as long as you don't intend on putting in more than 2 add in cards you will be fine. And your system wattage is sitting under 400w so you have a decent amount of headroom. Also that RAM is kinda overpriced and overkill. If you want it for looks go ahead. But I recommend a much cheaper 3200 kit like this that also has looks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zz3H99/team-t-force-delta-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf4d416g3200hc16cdc01

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New PC Build $800"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points
  • Location:
  • Peripherals required (monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc):
  • Operating System required:

Since you didn't give any info about the above listed I will assume USA and do one with OS and peripherals and one without. And since you said around $800 just going to assume you don't mind going a little bit over if it means more for the money. I hope you mean without the above listed because if you mean with the peripherals and OS you will have some trouble running at 1080p ultra.

Without Peripherals or OS.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $133.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard $119.89 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $47.99 @ Amazon
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card $329.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $810.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 11:08 EDT-0400

With.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $133.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $47.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.95 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $14.96 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard $32.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse $49.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $823.33
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 11:12 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Did I pick the wrong major?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Assuming you live in the US(I don't know how it works in other countries). Have you considered the military? With a Bachelors(which is what I am guessing you have) you would qualify to be an Officer. The base pay for an O1(2nd Lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Army or Air Force. An Ensign in the Navy or Coast Guard) is about $40k a year(which depending on your current par may not be a lot but you said "terrible low paying" so I am going to assume it's at least on pay if not better). But you also get housing, or housing allowance, basic allowance for subsistence, and full health care coverage. Plus I am pretty sure you can use the tuition benefits to help pay off college debt. But if not you can still use it further your education. But once the benefits are counted in you would need to make around $70k in the civilian field to equal it. And after 2 years you would automatically be promoted to O2 and your base pay would increase to about $50k a year. Of course it's not for everybody. But if you are looking for a new job with benefits and decent pay I recommend looking into the Navy or Air Force. They offer some pretty good tech related jobs for officers. They also have some good medical programs if you want to go that route.

But again it's not for every body. But I do highly recommend looking into it. Well that's all the advice I have. Best of luck to you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinions on a gaming PC build"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the budget mostly. But because the 560 is not that great on price to performance, I would go with a 2400g. As it would be cheaper than buying a 1200+560. And give you great performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $119.89 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $119.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 10:55 EDT-0400

Much cheaper than.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor $59.35 @ OutletPC
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 560 - 896 2 GB Video Card $109.91 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $169.26
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 10:57 EDT-0400

However if you are willing to spend the money for a GPU and CPU, get the RX 570. It's $10 more than the cheapest 560 with much better performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor $59.35 @ OutletPC
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $179.34
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 10:58 EDT-0400

However if you do want to save as much as possible the 2200g is a great option. But I recommend either the 2400g or the 1200+570.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "APU For Gradual Upgrade or no?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a great way to save money now. And then get a great GPU later when they have the money. And considering APUs don't cost much more than a regular CPU of the same core and thread count it is a good option price wise.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Destiny 2 gaming pc"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points
  • Location:
  • Use (gaming, rendering, etc):
  • Peripherals required (monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc):
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Need this info.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need helping building a budget pc"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point
  • Location:
  • Use (gaming, rendering, etc):
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Comment reply on Forum Topic "very basic build - any red flags are suggestions"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Nothing wrong with it. But you can get a better build for the price. More cores. Faster RAM. Cheaper SSD that is faster which can be useful when loading large programs.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $183.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $62.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.95 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $67.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan $31.06 @ Amazon
Case Fan Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan $31.06 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $651.90
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-21 17:26 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How much should I sell my pc for?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's worth about $900-$1000 usd. So you are looking at around 750-850gbp.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New to the community"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Will be able to run at 1080p very high-ultra depending on the game. 1440p around high settings(this is if your framerate target is 60 fps).

Don't go off anything Userbenchmark says. Better to look up benchmarks on youtube, or some other reliable benchmark site. When in doubt just ask around on a site like this, or Reddit(r/PCMasterRace is a popular PC sub but it's more focused on completed builds, jokes, memes, etc. But you can get some help there)

It's a decently priced PC. Hope it works well for you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PCPartPicker App?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

What wrong with the mobile site. I am to the point where I use it more than on PC and the transition is seamless. The only differences are minor layout changes accommodate mobile. What problems do you have with the mobile site?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Please help!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah okay. Lots of people have been on here with the same issue. Best I can tell you is try to convince Him. Show him some youtube videos. Show him this thread. It's a simple process as long as you do your research. I was tearing down and putting back together PCs when I was your age. Best of luck to you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Looking for a budget build? Look no further. I've created an amazing PC for only $450!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

This makes no sense. A series of single word sentences? What is that supposed to mean?"

I was being sarcastic. That does not make me a troll.

It's not an insult,

Except it is. Just like calling somebody smart is a compliment. I also add that personal attacks are against PCPP's User Code of Conduct.

So you expect to fit several 100gb games in a $450 budget build? Ridiculous. Get out.

I didn't. I said

At least with a 500gb SSD you can get several games to play until you can afford a 1tb HDD.

How is keeping my $450 budget build up-to-date useless? You're a moron.

Again what works for somebody may not work for somebody else. So you would need to change the parts likely for each individual person. May as well do the build completely from scratch. Doesn't take that long. And would be easier then constantly updating this and then modifying it for each person.

And really? Again with the personal insults. That is extremely immature and breaks PCPP's user Code of Conduct.

I posted my comment exactly 30 minutes before you posted yours. I checked the times.

Okay. It doesn't change the fact that at the time I posted that comment I had not refreshed the page in at least 30 minutes. I am a slow typer. And I am not normally 100% focused on replies as I may have stuff to do and type in between doing things. I added that sentence in case you did say something. If I had seen that why would I possibly add that part?

Want to keep making inaccurate points, misconstruing on purpose, and calling the rules I made for this build bad? That's fine. I built this to a certain specification, with several things that will not budge in mind on purpose, it's not my fault you're a control freak who can't handle not having everything you're way. People are free to modify to fit their needs, just like I am free to keep the base model to my specifications. I welcomed your criticism, took some advice and made changes, and did away with your suggestions that I did not like. You're angry because you didn't get a 100% say, get over yourself and your own ego. I can go all day. Or for weeks, months, even years. I will reply, and reply, and reply, and reply. You will not get my to change my mind on the basic layout & specifications for this build until I see a better option.

If you are not open to considering my point then why do you think I would be open to considering yours. I am not angry. The fact you have used personal insults show that you are angry. Show me how I am a control freak. And yes people are free to modify it. But the point of Creat a Part List For Me, is to post a build unique to them that they don't need to modify.

Good day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Looking for a budget build? Look no further. I've created an amazing PC for only $450!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You're wrong, I did say something to him.

Apparently you missed when I said

(At the time of writing this)

You missed that didn't you? And it does take a while for me to write these out so that would account for any difference in time.

And I chose ATX Mid for my suggestion because this is supposed to be a build that fits all people as best as possible then edited to their needs. For most people, mATX is not a good thing for a first time build. You're right no build fits everyone perfectly, so once again this is meant to get as close as possible and then modified to fit their needs.

If you are going to modify it for each specific person then having this completely useless as it is better to make it 100% from scratch.

Also, once again, strict requirement of $450 because I do not want this build going slightly up, up, up as more and more people suggest improvements.

Again, asinine and unrealistic requirement.

Either stop replying or shut up, you wont change that and it was stated in the original post. You know that and continue to fight it, just to cause issues.

I have broken no rules. I have the liberty to reply to this unless Staff asks me to stop. I am not doing it to cause issues, I am trying to point out how asinine it is.

As to the changing prices.. Do you assume me so ignorant that I do not know this? That's incredibly insulting, and this build will continue to be updated accordingly. Stop assuming it wont be.

I didn't assume anything. I did not know whether or not you had taken that into account. And if you constantly need to update it, it makes this list kind of pointless, similar to how modifying it to each person makes this pointless. And you taking insult to this makes no sense. I did not assume any ignorance on your part.

Never said anything about that, or spreading windows across multiple drives.

You were not very clear at all as you just said files. Which can be interpreted a number of ways. And maybe I should have made it more clear that I was trying to understand what you meant by that.

But putting windows and your most common programs on an SSD, followed by games and documents on an HDD isn't a bad thing (though again this has been fixed WHY ARE YOU STILL ARGUING THIS YOU ARE SO FRUSTRATING) and many people do it).

I didn't say it was a bad thing. Just that it is better to have a larger SSD so you can fit more than just windows and a few programs on it. Stuff like commonly played games. Did you miss the part where I have an SSD and use an HDD for most of my games. But I also try to keep commonly played games on one of my SSDs. And extremely large games on my HDD, or ones that I don't play often.

Nice copy and pasting what I said, changing the wording, and trying to act as if I said anything different.

What I said and what you said have 2 completely difference meanings. And when you said.

Nor is game performance hurt in most cases. The only issue would be times for opening up the games on that drive, which with a good system would be relatively fast anyways.

It implies that the rest of the system can somehow speed up load times, but they are completely dependent on the drive. You did say something different than what I said. And there are several difference types of game performance. Mainly framerate and load times. So when you are referring to drives it is important to specify which you are talking about.

The CPU used in my build is a 1200, please get out of this thread already, stop trolling.

You clearly don't understand the concept of an example. The 2200g is just a slightly better version of the 1200 but with an integrated GPU. And integrated graphics can be useful if you want to watch videos while gaming. As the iGPU can handle the video watching and not affect GPU performance. But it is not needed for that.

And I am not a troll. I have been on this site for almost 3 years. You can look at my account. If you think I am troll then believe that, but I am not. I was simply trying to give an honest critique.

If you have lots of games (100+ GB for a single game as you so proudly stated), you put it on the HDD, that's common sense and you just proved yourself wrong. SSD price per GB is expensive.

Well first of all I wasn't "proudly stating" that. I was giving an example of how a lot of modern games are around 100gb or over. Battlefront 2 and Destiny 2 are popular games that are also around 100gb. And how did I prove myself wrong? Because in the part where I brought up high capacity games I also said

At least with a 500gb SSD you can get several games to play until you can afford a 1tb HDD.

Which is my point.

You can't argue the need for more capacity in a budget build, then say it should be switched to a smaller storage system for speed. That simply does not work.

I am not arguing just for storage, but also speed. Which I said before. You can argue in favor of both. You are clearly ignoring what I have said.

How is hypocrite a personal insult? You are contradicting yourself, this is fact, this is not an insult.

Well I am not contradicting myself. You are taking what I say away from the context that it was given in. And saying that I am a hypocrite is an insult whether correct or not. Saying that a statement I made is hypocritical is not an insult as tho. But you didn't say a statement I made was hypocritical. You said I am a hypocrite.

A few choice words: Get. Out. Hypocrite. And. Stop. Trolling.

This makes no sense. A series of single word sentences? What is that supposed to mean?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Looking for a budget build? Look no further. I've created an amazing PC for only $450!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Agree or not, I set a firm budget to prevent going over, then going over that, etc as it's very easy to snowball. That's my choice.

If you are recommending to this to other people then it can't be your choice. It has to be their choice. Which is the entire point of customizing a build to somebody's needs.

I never disputed the fact that it was better, it was to deal with the upgrade path needed in the first place, in case they wanted 16GB. 16GB simply does not fit in this budget without sacrificing on other things. Irrelevant now that the other guy has fixed this issue by recommending another motherboard though.

2 years ago when 8gb of RAM cost $80 it was still the minimum in a low budget build. Now you can pick up 16gb for $60. And you don't need to sacrifice on other things. Still have the same GPU. Better CPU(which could be swapped for the 1200 and same $20, I personally wouldn't do it but it is an option).

Once again, easy to put together. And I'm willing to doubt that people on this low of a budget have WiFi approaching speeds over 200MB/s which was the average I saw within that original adapter in reviews. Though again, irrelevant now that the other guy recommended a motherboard with good on-board networking.

So you are assuming that the person building is so ignorant to the point where they can't even install a wifi card. And they can somehow build a PC with that level of ignorance of how to build a PC.

No, you assumed mATX was the point of this build. Once again you have completely ignored the point that it has to be easy to put together. Being smaller means less working space, which is harder for a noob.

I didn't assume anything. I didn't make it a point for the build to be any specific form factor. mATX offered a decent price so i went for it. And again you think somebody is ignorant to the point of not being able to put together an mATX yet they can somehow build an ATX? It is not harder to build an mATX than an ATX. This is possibly the greatest failure in logic I have ever seen when it comes to building computers. The difficulty does not come from the form factor but the case. And the case chosen is open and easy to build in.

So you're recommending a 480GB SSD over having 120GB SSD and 500GB HDD, because of space issues? Dude you're literally a hypocrite, that's 140GB less they can have. I updated that to a 480GB SSD because of what that other guy recommended (speed/addressing issues w/ smaller drives), and removed the HDD to stay within budget, so again irrelevant, but at least stick to something if you're going to say it.

You really missed or ignored my point entirely. My point wasn't on overall system storage but of the SSD specifically. It would fill up far to fast and you would not be able to put any large games on it. You know games that would take advantage of the increase in speed of an SSD as opposed to an HDD. My argument was about both speed and capacity.

And really? Resorting to a personal insult by calling me a hypocrite.? That is childish and gets you no where in an argument. Just makes you look ignorant.

Spreading files across multiple drives has almost no impact, they'd still have improved boot times btw.

Um spreading files of one program across multiple drives can lead to impact on load times. If one part of a game is on an SSD and one part on an HDD than even if the game loads in the first place, it will only load at the speed of the slowest drive. And what does that have to do with boot times. You can' really have windows spread across multiple drives. That can create so many problems.

Nor is game performance hurt in most cases. The only issue would be times for opening up the games on that drive, which with a good system would be relatively fast anyways.

Game performance as in framerates is not affected by drives at all. Load times are 100% affected by the drive. A game will load much faster on an SSD than on an HDD.

Once again, you cant have EVERYTHING in a budget this low. Stop pretending as if you can. If you can fit 16GB of ram inside, with no sacrifices, and 500+GB of space, go ahead and try. I highly doubt you can.

Yes you can have "everything"(whatever you define that as). If you were to swap the CPU in my build with the Ryzen 1200 you would actually be under budget. Or drop the wifi card which may or may not be needed.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor $59.27 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage Mushkin Source 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case $21.85 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ Corsair
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $14.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $436.06
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-20 14:40 EDT-0400

See. Although I still your argument of a 100% fixed budget is asinine. Because if you present two options for a build to somebody, one costing $449, and the other costing $455 when they have a budget of $450, and show them the $455 option is better, they are going to concede the extremely high and costly amount of five whole dollars.

And again you completely miss the point where each build list proposed on this site is made specifically the OP's request. Very rarely can the same part list at a budget of $450 work great for two different people who have difference requirements out of a build. And not to mention the constant changing in prices makes it to where while a part list can work for a budget one day. A week later it may be over budget. Everything is in a constant state of flux.

Now I in a debate do not like bringing other people into it even from the same thread. But since you mentioned Gilroar's list I notice you said nothing about his build being Micro ATX(at the time of writing this at least).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Looking for a budget build? Look no further. I've created an amazing PC for only $450!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I gave suggestions on peripherals, and this was a strict $450 build. The reason for that is quite simple - it's quite easy to fall into a snowball effect of adding one small update, etc and end up with a $700 build.

You missed my point entirely. My point being that I have never seen a case where somebody can't go $5 over budget. A I don't think I have ever seen a build where somebody can't go a few dollars over. Going $5 over won't "snowball" into a $700 build. That's asinine.

but with the RAM I'd disagree wholeheartedly. I'd rather have one stick of 8GB, high speed, low latency ram and a good upgrade path for when I had a bit more cash, than spend more on lower speed ram, and not have any slots to upgrade in the future.

I don't care if you disagree. 16gb of 2400mhz is better in modern gaming than 8gb of 3200mhz. RAM speed does not matter that much when you are hitting the max of your RAM. Modern games use 12gb of RAM easily. For a $350 build yeah 8gb would make sense, but even then I would try to go for 16gb. It is such a huge improvement to performance in games going from 8gb to 16gb. You can disagree all you want but it is a fact that 16gb of lower speed is much better in modern games than 8gb of higher speed RAM. And RAM speed makes a small impact on gaming performance in most scenarios. And when it comes to latency it is exactly the same between the kit you chose and the one I chose. Not to mention that if you drop the wifi card you can get higher speeds anyway. Not to mention it's cheaper to buy a 16gb kit than it is to be 8gb kit than another 8gb kit. And RAM compatibility to a big thing. If the RAM kits are not fully compatible, when you upgrade to 16gb you could get stuck in single channel.

Also, a USB WiFi adapter was chosen on purpose. A lot of noobs to building PC's would prefer the process to be as simple as possible, and many use build tutorials that do not detail this step. And if they didn't need it, it would be quite easy to simply remove it (and possibly invest that money elsewhere).

USB wifi cards are kinda crappy. They can't transfer data at nearly the speeds of a PCIe or mobo built in card. And as such they extremely limit your speeds. And if you can install a GPU you can install a PCIe wifi card. It's possibly the easiest thing you can do. You literally take out one screw from the case, remove the PCIe slot cover, slide the wifi card in, return the screw. Done. And if somebody doesn't know how it takes 5 seconds of internet searching or read the manual with the wifi card.

This was meant to be an ATX mid build to help newbies, and you went straight to assuming mATX was fine. That is not. This is to target entry level people, with easy to put together & upgrade parts.

You assumed ATX would be required. Building a mATX is almost no different than building an ATX. It's just a little bit smaller.

While the SSD suggestion was fine, I am a firm believer that having 120GB is plenty fine for windows, your most popular programs, and whatnot.

You can believe it all you want. But the fact remains a 120gb SSD will be filled way too quickly. I originally had only a 240gb SSD in my build. It filled up in less than 2 weeks. I barely had any games downloaded. It was mostly Windows and game launchers. Only had a couple of games. I put in a 1tb HDD and once I got finished downloading a small portion of my Steam library I had already hit 500gb. Of course not everyone has the same games as I do. But modern games are in the 100s of gigabytes. A game like ARK Survival Evolved takes up about 140gb. At least with a 500gb SSD you can get several games to play until you can afford a 1tb HDD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Looking for a budget build? Look no further. I've created an amazing PC for only $450!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Several problems I have with this build but the primary one is price to performance. For around $450 you can get a CPU that can overclock better. 16gb of RAM. A larger SSD(120gb in 2019 is not that great. it will fill up way too fast and that means basically everything except windows and a few small programs will be put onto the HDD).

And I don't think there is anyone who has exactly $450 to spend and absolutely cannot go at least $10 dollars over. For $5 more you can get so much more. And if you drop the wireless adaptor it would be within budget. Because not everybody needs a wireless adaptor. Saying something like

but that is provided it does not go a dollar over $450.

Is ridiculous. If somebody absolutely cannot go over $450 then their budget isn't $450. It realistically would be closer to $400.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor $79.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $59.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $47.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case $21.85 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ Corsair
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $14.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $454.68
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-20 12:34 EDT-0400

And lastly there is no build that is perfect for a budget. Everybody has different needs. So you can't just simply make a build that is right for every gamer within a given budget. As this does not take into account peripherals, OS, etc at all.

Also I am pretty sure this post violates the "Create a Part List For Me" rules. As you are not asking for a part list, rather giving one.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "School is coming back?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Well I am homeschooled so I have an unusual perspective on topics like this.

A1: School never really ends for me. I do get long breaks in the summer but even then I am constantly given what I guess would be called learning assignments or books to read to further my education.

A2: I am not really going into a grade. Right now I am studying for the GED. I can pass it right now. But if you get a high enough score you can get college credit and that is what I am going for. But I guess technically speaking I am going into my 11th grade year.

A3: I will be starting online college shortly after I get a GED. I plan on studying criminal justice.

A4: Overall yes. I have an extremely flexible schedule right now and it allows me to do things most other people my age can't. Like sleep in if I need to. Take a bathroom break when needed. Cook my own food. And I only end up working for about 2-4 hours each day. Honestly the only thing I don't like is a personal problem where I can get distracted easily. I work at my desk which has my gaming PC. I don't game when I am supposed to be doing school work. My main distractions are Youtube, Reddit, and PCPartPicker. But that's a personal problem.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Please help!"

  • 3 months ago
  • 4 points

Why can't you assemble it yourself?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ASUS ROG STRIX Hero II not reaching 100% utilization while gaming"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I heard about that. Probably not going to buy it because of this. It's a shame really.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "ASUS ROG STRIX Hero II not reaching 100% utilization while gaming"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You can of course fix this crap with mods. I wish Bethesda would stop using their almost 20 year old engine. And stop relying on the modding community to fix all their crap.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Greenland Expansion???"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah I think we need to add territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, etc as states. It would be cool to see the number of stars change in my life time. And even the possibility of Greenland would be cool.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Just got a new job"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow that's awesome congratulations man.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Fun Challenge"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah. Screw John. If the jackass runs crap like Blender and Maya then he can build his own PC. Because unless I'm getting a few hundred of the budget to keep then he is just a dbag.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Playing multi-player games in single-player"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Nothing wrong with it. Bots can be fun. I remember playing the old Jedi Knight series against bots because I wasn't allowed to use the internet without parental supervision(this was when I was like 9). Had some good times with that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PCPartPicker App?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

This has been a topic before. Not just here. I have seen posts on Reddit about too. The reason there isn't from what I can remember is that the mobile site works just fine. Especially now after the redesign. And it would be a waste of time and resources. The PCPP staff have limited resources at their disposal.

But another reason is what kind of functionality could an app provide that the current mobile site doesn't? I have been using PCPP for years. The old mobile site was okay. It had it's problems and back then sure you could make an argument of how an app would be an improvement. But all my problems went away with the redesign. The redesign gives the mobile site, from what I can tell, 100% of the desktop site's functionality. And the design is uniform across both. Introducing an app would complicate things.

From my understanding the redesign made it much easier for updates to be applied to both desktop and mobile as they now share a lot of the same code and design. And before they had to work on updates for desktop and mobile individually. But with the redesign it is a lot more uniform and from what I have read, they can for the most part apply the same update that they use on desktop to mobile. So adding an app would complicate things as they would be back to coding for two different systems.

I don't speak for the staff nor am I staff. And I could be wrong on the reasons I gave.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ryzen 3600 build"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly there will be very little performance difference between the 4gb and 8gb models of either the 570 or 580. And in most cases no difference at all. Because there will only start to be a difference when you hit the cap of the 4gb model's ram. Which is uncommon because you usually hit the extend of the GPU's performance first. But if you insist on it then go for an 8gb 580. Because there is a lot better chance of you actually being able to use the extra ram with a 580 as opposed to the 570. But my recommendation is still to get a cheap 4gb 570, as that would be the best value wise.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ryzen 3600 build"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes they are the same. I edited my first comment.

Well you didn't specify 8gb. And honestly with a 570 or even the 580 the extra 4gb of vram is not useful in most cases. You will hit the limit of the GPU's performance before you hit the vram cap in most cases with the 4gb model.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ryzen 3600 build"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

While it is true that the 570 is slightly better price to performance, a $20 difference for a decent jump in performance is worth it in my opinion. But this is going by the 570 in your list. You can get a 570 for $120. If you did that than it would certainly be the way to go. And now I regret not double checking the prices of 570s before posting the above changes. So here I propose an alternate that would actually be better than the above listed as far as price to performance, and storage.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $198.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $68.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard -
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case $95.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.97 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $731.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-14 12:02 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ryzen 3600 build"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

So an NVMe SSD is not that useful in your situation. The speed increase is not really used by most applications. Better to go with a cheaper SATA SSD. And then you can use that money to go from an RX 570 to an RX 580. The difference in load times will be so small you would likely never notice, but the increase in framerates you will notice.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $198.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $68.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard -
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $82.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card $119.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case $95.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.97 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $731.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-14 12:02 EDT-0400

Alternatively you could keep the 570 and instead use the extra $20 for more storage.

EDIT: Changed parts list for a better option and redacted what I said that is no longer relevant to the part list.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I only just realized that the logo of PCPartPicker is a PC case with the side panel being removed"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Well... That makes sense now. After almost 3 years here how have I not noticed that?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Okay so the only thing your hard drive would affect in gaming is load times. It is also likely the reason ctrl-alt-del takes a while to show up. For gaming, make sure your video cable is plugged into your GPU. NOT your motherboard. If it is plugged into your motherboard then that would account for the lack of change in your gaming performance.

Another thing is drivers. If the video cable is plugged into your GPU as it should be, then see if you have up to date drivers. Your CPU and GPU are a decent combo, especially for 1080p gaming or below.

I would recommend getting a small SSD for cheap and using that for windows. It would drastically speed up your computer. And just use the HDD for large programs like games.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

A CPU upgrade does not necessarily need a motherboard upgrade. An i7 on that platform can be found for a decent price and are still capable. Even the CPU listed is still capable of 1080p. Heck the older 2000 series i5s are still fine for 1080p.

But a cooler upgrade and an SSD would be huge.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Hard drugs and legality."

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

I honestly think drugs should be legalized. Not that I have the desire to do any. But why should somebody be restricted from doing something that in most cases only affects them. And with drugs being legal it would decrease drug related violence. Not much reason for two drug cartels to go to war in the streets, if everybody can get some cocaine or meth at Walgreens. It would make smuggling drugs practically useless.

Once prohibition ended almost all gang related violence related to alcohol stopped very quickly. And I think a similar situation would happen if drugs were legalized.

In my opinion if somebody wants to do something that can destroy their body or even kill them, they have the right to do that.

Now do I think doing drugs is smart. In most cases no. If you do it for anything other then medical reasons then I think it's somewhat stupid. But I also think you have the right to do it. NNNot saying if you do drugs for fun/recreation you are stupid. Just that in my own opinion it is a not very smart thing to do. But I also don't think you should be stopped if that's what you want to do. It's similar to alcohol in my opinion. If you go to the bar and get plastered on a regular basis and destroy your liver in the process, in my opinion it's not a smart thing to do. But at the same time small amounts of alcohol can help in small ways with minor medical problems. For example my grandfather was recommended by his doctor to drink a small amount of wine a few times a week to calm his nerves and help with a condition he had(I think it was Parkinson's but I am not certain. Basically some times his hand would start shaking and the wine was supposed to calm the nerves and reduce the affects of the condition).

TL;DR: I don't think they should be illegal. I think everyone has a right to do as they want with their own body as long as it does not directly harm others. IMO it's similar to alcohol. But I also don't think it's smart to do it for non medical reasons.

EDIT: As I stated several times this is my opinion. And I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But at the moment I am not looking to get into a long discussion so if you disagree with me I am just going to say right now. Let's agree to disagree. Have a great day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I upgrade my platform?..."

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

For 1080p you really don't need to upgrade at all. I am running a 6600k with a Vega 56 and for 1080p ultra wide it is an absolute beast. Even if you were to jump to 1440p or 4k you would still be perfectly fine. OF course your performance will be behind a 3600. But are you getting the performance you want? IF so then you are good.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Childhood scars"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol. It doesn't look like that. Would be cool if it did.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air vs Water cooler"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Both types are actually liquid coolers, in the one the liquid is pumped through a radiator and in the other the liquid is contained in heatpipes that passively move the heat out to the radiator.

What you are talking about is a vapor chamber air cooler. But not all air coolers are vapor chamber.

Most just use copper pipes to pull heat away from the CPU, and the heat is transferred to usually aluminum fins, which is then radiated into the air, usually with the aid of fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Refund Question"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPP has nothing to do with buying, or returning products if that is what you mean. PCPP does not sell anything. They provide links to online retail markets.

When it comes to returning to the online retail markets like Amazon and Newegg. You will normally have a 30 day period to contact them. Outside of that it falls to the warranty which is usually handled by the manufacturer of the product.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Childhood scars"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Sounds like my brother. He has cut himself many times with his knives.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Childhood scars"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow. I didn't realize cereal had long enough of a shelf life to get scars.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Childhood scars"

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Huh interesting. Has anyone ever tried to make an insult(or lighthearted jab or a chirp) out of that. Like saying "Don't mind waj287. He always puts his hip where his mouth is." or "He's got his hip in his mouth." /s

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Phillip, can I volunteer for staff?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 4 points

This isn't like reddit where moderators are part of the community. As far as I am aware all PCPP staff are paid, full time employees that work out of the PCPP headquarters. Which from my understanding is a small office. And they don't just do moderator work. Most of the staff are software developers, or they handle the business side if PCPP. It's not a hobby. It's a job.

Again this is just from my understanding so I may be wrong on the specific roles of the staff. So keep that in mind.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "does this work"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The link you posted sends people to their "System builder." Which is unique to everyone on this site. What you need to link is either.

  • The Specific list: This can be done by copying the link, on the options bar just above the list. What you did was copy the link at the top of your web browser. Which as stated above sends you to this. An example of this option will be displayed

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQDF7W

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $329.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 12:45 EDT-0400

I recommend the second option as it will display it on this page. Whereas linking it will send you to a different page. Also keep in mind you can edit your OP. Just below what you have written there will be a few options. One of then is "edit". When you have the part list in either link or markup I recommend you use the edit function to add it into your post.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Just came back from vacation"

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Same thing. Just got back from 2.5 weeks away from my PC and the first thing I thought was that I hit one of the DPI buttons on my mouse by accident. But after a few minutes everything started to feel normal again. Although in some cases the FOV on games that were okay before was bothering me. Like Skyrim. Couldn't stand the FOV level anymore. Weird.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cereal or Milk first?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Is soup cereal?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Choosing between two part lists, Intel and AMD . . ."

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

Let my clarify something. I was asking for benchmarks when I said I would need some proof. Doesn't need to he of the exact PSU you have. Just a few benchmarks of several different PSUs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Choosing between two part lists, Intel and AMD . . ."

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Power supplies don't always take their wattage out of the wall, that's how they don't just overload components.

I never said they did.

Did you even read what I said? Because most of what you just said is the sane as what I said, just worded differently and condensed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What should I name my deer?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 4 points

How about after a Roman emperor. Like Julius, Tiberius, Claudius.

You could also name him A-Duck. Because he comes up to your house and the waddles. Waddle waddles away. Till the very next day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Choosing between two part lists, Intel and AMD . . ."

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

I think you missed the point. It's efficiency rating is based around it's max wattage. So the sweet spot would be to consume 600-700w. Ut's efficiency when consuming 300w is going to be much lower. The thing I think you are missing here is what the efficiency even is. If a PSU is 80% efficient that means 80% of what it draws will actually be used. That other 20% will be wasted and become heat. And there is a difference between consuming, and drawing. The PSU draws power. The components consume it. So if your components consume 300w, and your PSU is 80% efficient for 300w. Then your PSU will be drawing around 375w. But the efficiency is centered around the wattage. So if you are only drawing 300w on a 750w PSU, more of what the PSU draws will become heat(percentage wise) then if you were drawing 600-700w. So it may be 80% efficient when consuming 700w. But it will more than likely be lower when only drawing 300w.

I am not an expert on this so I could be wrong. But in order for you to convince me otherwise I would need some proof.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Choosing between two part lists, Intel and AMD . . ."

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

I did find a cheaper PSU that happened to be 750W as well, I think that might just be a sale so I might change it.

It's not just about wattage. Modularity and efficiency rating are huge. Also 750w is way overkill. I run a 650w and I have a 6600k @4.5ghz and a Vega 56. Your efficiency would actually go down. And the power supply would be drawing more than needed and thus more power will go heat and thus wasted. I would even go with a 450w or 550w if you can find a decent one for cheap.

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