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Forum Topic "Ugh Intel.."

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

As far as I know AMD has never called it Ryzen+. Just Ryzen Second Generation. We don't know what they will call the Ryzen cpus based off of Zen 2. But it looks like they are just going with a similar naming strategy as intel. So the Zen 2 based Ryzen chips will probably be called Ryzen Third Generation. But we won't know until AMD tells us.

Forum Topic "Ugh Intel.."

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Save everything you can if you upgrade to Ryzen Second Generation. I am sure you can get $125 for a used i5 and it's motherboard.

Forum Topic "Ugh Intel.."

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I believe what you are talking about is the communication through the infinity fabric which relied on ram. I am not 100% sure on this but I believe that is why RAM speeds and compatibility were so weird when Ryzen launched. But they continue to fix the problems with Ryzen and later generations will most likely have a smoother launch. I hope.

Forum Topic "Ugh Intel.."

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

As an Intel user who is still mad that coffee lake is not backwards compatible, I say go for Ryzen. I would advise waiting for the Second Generation Ryzen however. It's only 3 months away. When I have money to switch I probably will. Ryzen will be supported for several more years and AMD said that later Ryzen architectures will have more cores.

Forum Topic "How many gb do i need to play games at 1440p?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yeah there always is the risk of buying used and waiting for Volta would be the best option. But 970s have not been the most popular card for miners due to the long return period compared to more modern cards. And most of the 970s I have seen on ebay are sold by people that used it for gaming. If you look at the seller feedback and see how many things they have sold it can give you good idea of what these cards were used for. And if the card is faulty on arrival when listed as working you can get your money back. Its always a risk but due to the low amount of these used for mining it is a good option if you are looking for something cheap to last you until new cards hit.

Forum Topic "Used 212 dollars gaming pc"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Its Bulldozer not Kaveri.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11669/amd-releases-bristol-ridge-to-retail-am4-gets-apus

And the q6600 is a much worse cpu for gaming then a 4c/4t bulldozer chip. And the APU is running at a much higher frequency anyway. The 800mhz ram will battleneck the entire system to where the lower capacity with the much higher speed would benefit you better. The lower amount of ram would hurt the system performance but not as much as using 800mhz ram with it. Plus with the APU you actually have an upgrade path to Ryzen and more ram can always be thrown in whenever you have $40. Plus since its new the warranties are actually valid. And while I could not find a direct comparison between the 2 I did find that the a8 9600 is about half the performance of a gt 1030 with an i5 8400.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcxTdYCoo8

And not to mention the fact that the games would need to have good SLI support in order for it to come close to having half the performance of a gt 1030. And the PSU you have listed does not meet the minimum wattage listed from nVidia of 680w.

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-295/specifications

EDIT: Having 8gb of ram would still cost under $290

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ghw7r7

Also in both scenarios you could salvage an hdd from an older system if you have one.

Forum Topic "Used 212 dollars gaming pc"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BfjJzM

This would be more powerful. And you could actually run games like League of Legends CS:GO and such.

Forum Topic "Student taken down by officer story"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

It looks like the girl tries to make a run for it and that is why she got face planted. My parents always said do whatever the police tell you to. That is the best way to avoid trouble. Even if you are innocent the moment you start resisting is when they will get cautious and not give a crap. As long as you do what they say you will fine. When you get pulled over do exactly what they tell you to do. Don't make a move without informing them because that is the easiest way to get shot. If you have a gun in the car tell them where it is immediately. If you follow this you will almost never have a problem with the police.

Forum Topic "power supply replacements"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

It shouldn't. The main issues are the end of the cable that plug into the PSU. But a company such as EVGA uses the same cables for every PSU. I have a Corsair psu and an EVGA psu and the end of teh connector that goes into the psu is slightly different on both. But when its the same brand its the same connector.

Forum Topic "i5 6500 on a 430w PSU?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

Yes they have the same TDP. You will be fine. But I advise you wait and save for a 6700. Since the performance difference in gaming betweent eh i5 and i3 is not that much.

Forum Topic "power supply replacements"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

That depends. Since the only way to do this would be with simi or fully modular power supplies then it really depends on the manufacturer. If both are from EVGA for example then there should not be any danger. But mixing cables from different companies can cause problems. Just use the cables that came with your PSU and you should be fine. If you are talking about extensions then they should work across all power supply brands.

Forum Topic "Best cheap VC"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Weak being a relative term comparing it to gpus that can actually run games. But these type of gpus are not meant for gaming. They are weak compared to other cards such as the 710's big brother the 750ti. But that is by design. You should not be worried. They are perfectly fine for non gaming tasks.

Patooti's Completed Build: Excellent Gaming System and Digital Audio Workstation

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Probably not. Since it is on the aluminum and not the copper it should be fine. The worst that will happen is the adhesive will wear off due to the heat and the sticker will fall onto the gpu.

Forum Topic "Um, what the freak?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I do not understand what you are asking. What do you mean by?

WHERE ARE THE CLICK BUTTONS

Forum Topic "How many gb do i need to play games at 1440p?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Depends on the game. But something like an rx 470 is probably the minimum you would want to go for playing most games at 1440p. But with the current gpu pricing it is best to get a used gpu like the gtx 970. You can get them for a good price used. Otherwise you are stuck over paying.

Forum Topic "Low Profile card for a HP/Compaq 4000 Pro"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127931&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Since you won't be gaming and all your looking to do is stream video something cheap like this is really all you need. You can go for a more powerful card but it won't benefit you. It would benefit you more to get a cpu upgrade then something like a gt 1030. But for streaming video the gt 710 is perfect and adds support for 4k.

Forum Topic "Best cheap VC"

Forum Topic "Vertical Gpu S340 Elite"

Forum Topic "Best cheap VC"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Well if you are not a gamer then you are looking into a Video Display Adapter. Which is basically a gpu that is so weak its only purpose is to add video ports so that you can have more displays or be able to have higher resolutions. If this is what you are looking for then I would recommend the gt 710 for around the same price. Since it has a maximum resolution of 3840 x 2160 and the 210 has a max of 2560 x 1600. And since you are not a gamer you would not notice a difference between the 1gb and the 2gb. If you are doing stuff like light photo/video editing then the 710 would be fine. I would recommend the 1gb model since the ram is much faster is of better use then the 2gb model.

Forum Topic "(First Build) GT 710 problems"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

No problem.

Forum Topic "(First Build) GT 710 problems"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

If by PCU you mean PSU as in power supply then no gt 710 that I know of needs one. The PCIE slot can provide 75 wats of powers and the gt 710 only needs 19 wats. So you should be fine. Just try plugging it in and powering it on. If nothing happens then you have a problem.

Forum Topic "is it worth upgrading from a gtx 750ti to a 1030 OC PH-GT1030-O2G"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

I would tell your friend to wait until gpu prices go down or until Volta releases later this year. If they really want to upgrade the best option would be to grab a used gtx 970 off ebay. Which is more powerful then the 1050ti and cheaper atm. But yeah its not worth upgrading to anything less then a 1050ti. I would say go higher.

Forum Topic "Ultra Wide size?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I have the 25" LG Ultra Wide (May not be the same model since I have the 75hz version) and it is about the same vertical hight as my old 21" 16:9. I would say go for the bigger one if it is in your budget but if not the 25" is still a good option. I have seen the 29" and there is not that much of a difference. But if you can get the 29" go for it. I have not had any problems in gaming when it comes to screen tearing or anything like that. Only problems I have in games is 16:9 cutscenes but that has nothing to do with gameplay. If you play online games that have native support for 21:9 then you have an advantage over anyone using a 16:9. I would say having a wider aspect ratio is just as big of an advantage as having a higher refresh rate.

Forum Topic "is it worth upgrading from a gtx 750ti to a 1030 OC PH-GT1030-O2G"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

Its not really an upgrade. They are about equal in performance but with a good OC the 750ti wins.

Forum Topic "Favorite Twitch Streamer?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

NightBlue3. The only one I watch.

Forum Topic "New pc first build"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

By software do you mean installing windows or another OS. If so its pretty easy. No guide really needed for windows if you buy a copy from bestbuy, Micro Center etc. You just plug in the USB that it comes with and the only thing you need to do is the basic setup and selecting the storage drive. If you buy a license key online then you will need to create your own boot usb using the utility that Microsoft provides.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

As long as you have a usb of at least 8gb you can just download and run the tool. Here is a guide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLfnuE1unS8

If you don't have a product key then select that option and it will install the unactivated version of windows.

Forum Topic "Which part has usb?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

No problem. Just remember that you need a spare usb 2.0 and a 3.0 header on your motherboard.

Forum Topic "Which part has usb?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

If have an extra 5.25 inch bay open you can use this to add a few usb ports and sd card slot.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820223120&cm_re=5.25_card_reader-_-20-223-120-_-Product

Forum Topic "Caffeine Intake for Teenagers?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I have been drinking coffee since I was 2 years old and have been drinking it on a regular basis since I was 6. When I was 2 and 3 years old my Dad would give me espresso on a spoon. The only downside that probably isn't even coffee related is that I have slightly high blood pressure but that can also be contributed to the fact that I am fat. I drink about 10 cups (By volume not referring to coffee mugs) a day. And when I stop drinking it I don't get the symptoms of withdraw. My father who knows a lot about medicine (because that he went to med school for a few years) has no problem with my coffee intake other then the fact that I usually don't leave any for him. I should probably drink a bit less but it really does not effect you. The stuff you put in your coffee is of more concern then the coffee itself. High amounts of sugar can also slightly raise your blood pressure. I recently stopped putting sugar in my coffee and just drink it black and there has been a slight decrease in my blood pressure and heart rate when I am at rest. But most of my problems are because I am fat. I am also 15 btw. As long as you are not on a caffeine high you should be fine. Last time I was on a caffeine high it took about cups (By volume) and 8 shots of espresso but that was 2 years ago. I am one of those people that drinks coffee because of the flavor. I won't drink a bad coffee. And most of the coffee I drink is a dark roast which has less caffeine then medium and light roasts. But you should be fine.

Forum Topic "Snow!"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Its not the cold its the humidity. -10 feels colder then -20 because there is more moisture in the air.

Forum Topic "Snow!"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Usually just a t-shirt and jeans. Its -20C outside. It sits around 0 in my room due to my house's heating. Some times when it gets colder I will put a hoodie on but thats about it. I just grew up in this weather and have been playing hockey for most of my life so that prolly helps.

Forum Topic "JayzTwoCents' Opinions about Cryptocurrency Mining"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I have no problem with mining. It sucks for gamers right now due to the rising prices on everything. But that is how it works. In the end it will benefit gamers when cryptocurrency crashes and the market is flooded with used gpus that will be sold for cheap. But with more people getting into it the cost of getting into it goes up. So eventually the cost of getting into will be so high that it is not even worth it. I have no problem with mining but I will be happy when it crashes and the market is flooded with used cards.

Forum Topic "$650 USD Budget PC for ROBLOX"

Forum Topic "How do you keep warm in your home?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Just sell your left kidney. That should cover the cost.

Forum Topic "How do you keep warm in your home?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I am probably the worst person to give advice on this since I do whatever I can to make my room as cold as possible. But if you just want to keep one or two specific rooms warm try getting a space heater. That's what my Dad does for his room. But personally the perfect weather for me is -10C. Warm enough to snow, Cool enough to play out door hockey.

Forum Topic "Upgrades for 4K"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I would wait for Volta. Given Nvidia's record with releasing gpus every 2 years or so,(Not counting architecture refreshes) and usually between the 4th and 9th month of the year. Even if you don't even get one, When it releases it will help drive prices down on current gen cards. My guess on the release date for the consumer grade cards in is the first half of July. But due to the fact that the only competition they have is in the sub $140 market they are in no hurry to release it and risk having a bad launch.

Forum Topic "Snow!"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Its actually not a lot. Usually we have 3 or 4 feet by now but the past 3 years have been kinda warm.

Forum Topic "Snow!"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

In Minnesota we got 1 foot of snow on Sunday and today kids are going to school. We have about 2 feet of snow right now. Yes you are extremely unprepared. We will probably have 4 feet of snow within 2 months. I leave my window open when its -20C. It keeps my PC cool. My load temps on my CPU are around 50C. 13C cooler then the summer.

Forum Topic "Least Favorite School Subject?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

English. I would rather do Spanish then English because learning another language would be more useful. Everything else I do well in but English kills my gpa.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Further cuts only hurt AMD.

Lowering the price on a product that will not be shipped much longer is a great way to clear out stock and get more money and to make way for a new product. AMD did this with the FX cpus in a way with the rebates on certain cpus.

2- Incorrect binning means more time spent both in Quality Control/Quality Assurance better models like the 1800X don't spend time there, and time is money.

Allan_M_Systems pretty much covered this in more detail then I did before.

3- Costs the same to produce an APU as a CPU similar die size so you get the same out of each plate purchased. Problem though is the APU are slightly smaller and intended for a lower budget market so will likely not be as well built as the Ryzen.

No it costs more to produce an APU. That is why in the past an APU with 2 cores cost as much as a CPU with 4 cores.

No you cannot outside of MDA programmed titles.

Yes that is true. I should have been more specific and said it has limited use. But it is getting easier for game devs to implement this feature.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Just my thoughts on what would happen if AMD entered the ultra low end.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 0 points 14 months ago

Nullarc is arguing that AMD would continue production on older generation models and to lower prices even further, as opposed to using the newer silicon from Raven Ridge in the budget line which is its intended place.

No. I am saying AMD would use whatever leftover resources they have that can't be used elsewhere to make more first gen Ryzen to sell at a lower cost so they don't waste resources.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

There was no price drop on the 1200

Did you completely ignore the part where I said

AMD already said they are going to lower prices on all the current Ryzen chips eventually

Eventually being the key word in that sentence. Most likely after Ryzen Gen 2 launches we will see even further price cuts on the current Ryzen chips that were discounted, And price cuts on the ones that were not. Zen+ is only going to have slight performance increases over Zen. Most of it from overclockibility. So in order to sell the first gen Ryzen when the second gen launches they lower the price.

And it costs them more to make then a 1800X giving the extra time spent in QA/QC and binning. That is the model AMD literally cares the least about selling.

No it does not cost them more. Due to the way infinity fabric works unlike other architectures, If a cpu has half it's cores dead they throw it away because it does not work. With IF they just turn it into a lower end model, Saving them money. As far as binning goes the 1800X is supposed to be the best binned chip overall. Meaning that you are most likely to win the silicon lottery by buying that one instead of a 1700 or 1700x.

No 14nm production was shifted to Vega and APU.

The part of the cpu the processor dye sit on is different for the APUs then compared to the CPUs. Why waste resources? If they have not already made as many first gen ryzen processors as they could in order to sell at a cheaper price and make way for Gen 2 then they will. Otherwise it's a waste of resources. They may have already used up as many Ryzen resources as they could before it started cutting into other things and chances are they have or are in the process of doing that. But when the APUs launch next month why buy a 1200 over an APU?

And I ask again why AMD would sell a 4c/4t APU for the same price as a 4c/4t cpu? The better choice would be the APU with how little of a performance increase there will be between first and second gen ryzen. With an APU you have more options that take stress off your gpu. Why hook up all 3 of your monitors to your gpu if you only use 1 for gaming. Why not have the other 2 handled by the APU. And if you have an AMD gpu like the RX 560 then you could use the APU's gpu power to help the 560 if you wanted too.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

AMD already said they are going to lower prices on all the current Ryzen chips eventually. A price drop on the 1200 would mean less then $90 but closer to $80 if they wanted to make money.

It's already canceled so they can run production of the 2nd gen production and APU, the downside of being tied to a single supplier or pay penalties is you are limited by that production

You think they will just completely stop selling their 14nm architecture even if they stock. They may have cancelled production from GF but they most likely have the resources left over to make a few more Ryzen chips. They will sell whatever they have left because they want to make money.

Just because it hasn't launched yet doesn't mean it will never launch.

Its been 4 months since anything on coffee lake was released. I do not think we will see anything other then lower end chipsets any time soon. They could have not had this problem by having forward and backwards compatibility.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

AMD and Intel have not been cross licensed on their CPUs since the 80s or 90s. They are in competition. They are cross licensed on instruction sets but that is it. Since AMD created the x64 and intel the x86, They cross license so both manufacturers can use both. But when it comes to the actual cpus they are in direct competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxzYFU5a_U

AMD cannot at this time compete on a core to core level with Intel so they use better integrated graphics and thread count to compete which can as shown in the past work.

Ryzen has no Igpu. The apus are marketed as a cpu that is capable of gaming on it's own. But that is only for the APUs. They will continue to make both better but they are not sacrificing cpu power for the sake of a better igpu. The Ryzen 2300g is a 4c/4t chip with an igpu capable of 1080p low gaming. They are pricing that at $100. So why would they still sell a 4c/4t chip without the vega gpu for $100. They wouldn't unless it has significantly better cpu performance.

If anything intel is abandoning the ultra low end market. Coffee lake has not had a cpu for less then $130. And they don't have any motherboards besides the most high end ones. They have nothing on the budget side. The g4560 is $90 now. On newegg the cheapest celeron I could find that is new is $60. It used to be $40 for a celeron.

You believe AMD will continue production on first generation Ryzen.

Yes for a time since they will still need to sell the remaining 14nm architecture in order to make more of their money back. It would make perfect sense for one of the second gen 4c/4t chips to have an $80 msrp. Or they will sell the rest of the first gen ones at that price till they run out. Their goal is to make money and you don't make money by throwing away a good product as soon as you launch a new one. You lower the price on the old one and sell both until you run out of the old one. That is what they did with the FX cpus. That is why at one point you could get a $40 rebate on an $80 FX cpu.

AMD cannot at this time compete on a core to core level with Intel so they use better integrated graphics and thread count to compete which can as shown in the past work

That is almost exactly what I said. If they make it an apu even better. It would destroy intel if it was an apu or not.

So if for some reason they do release a dual core, It would have SMT so that it could actually compete. A 2c/4t chips from AMD on the desktop side that costs around $50 would destroy intel.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 0 points 14 months ago

The R3 2200U

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-2200u

If AMD does make a dual core desktop chip they would most likely have SMT or it would not be able to compete. But chances are they will just keep dropping the price of 4c/4t chips. It would actually hurt them to release a desktop 2c/2t chips due to the fact that intel's celerons would just crush it due to IPCs. AMD has the advantage of more cores and threads for the same price. So if for some reason they do release a dual core, It would have SMT so that it could actually compete. A 2c/4t chips from AMD on the desktop side that costs around $50 would destroy intel. Then again them cutting prices on 4c/4t chips would also destroy Intel in the low end market. And with the increased IPCs and overclockability with the Zen+ architecture even if it is only a small gain will help to compete against intel. And who buys celerons anyway? AMD would not give up their only advantage just to get in to the super cheap cpu market. And besides an old FX cpu will beet a celeron in anything except single threaded workloads. Just by adding hyper threading you can more then double the fps in some games, And if you look at the gpu usage you can see that a 2c/2t cpu will just bottleneck any gpu. If and when AMD enters the ultra low end market they will bring what they need to destroy intel completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEi8PJjlI_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDd5eNeLxdo

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12233/amd-tech-day-at-ces-2018-roadmap-revealed-with-ryzen-apus-zen-on-12nm-vega-on-7nm

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/CES-2018-AMD-Drops-Ryzen-CPU-Prices-30-Percent

They are already dropping prices and once Ryzen Second Generation is released the prices will probably be reduced further on the First Gen chips. When Ryzen Second Gen releases I think we will see quad core cpus for $80 or less. Just gotta till april to see.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

The only dual core Ryzen chip that will probably ever be made is going to be a mobile APU. With how cheap 4c/4t chips are becoming and how limited they are in gaming they will soon die off. And now that 6 and 8 core cpus are normal to have on desktops thanks to AMD, Game devs can now optimize their games for them. Within a few year 4c/4t chips will be in the same spot as 2c/2t chips are now. So to answer the question yes. But it is good news. It means that technology is progressing at a faster rate then it has been in the 6 years between Ryzen and Bulldozer.

Forum Topic "Are Dual-Core CPUs Dying?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

AMD announced that their cheapest laptop APU will be a 2c/4t cpu with a vega gpu. But they won't be making any more 2c/2t chips.

Forum Topic "Keep my 1060 3GB or upgrade?"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Wait for Volta. You can get a much better card for the same amount of money.

Forum Topic "looking for sub $80 and fx 8 cores"

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yeah Micro Center has a few good deals rn. An 8320E and a motherboard for $90 with a $10 MIR.

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