Thank you! Love SFF's since my first one could never go back! Hope to see your SFF build soon! ;)
They are :) Worth every penny is my honest opinion :D
I'm settled with the 12.6L of the NCase :)
Thank you :)
The V5, but I'm keeping an eye on the V6 :) my feet are similar to the stock ones from the V6 but are a mod :)
Thank you! :)
LOL xD true! Had one even smaller on a Lazer 3D LZ7 but a less powerful GPU, had an EVGA GTX 1060 6GB ITX ;)
Thank you R3mix! :)
Hi Mattieu, Had an LG 21:9 @75Hz 1080p and most games would reach 70+ fps on high settings :)
They are just about and the 24 ATX is actually passing under the mobo.
Hope this helps :)
24Pin ATX 150mm
8Pin EPS 300mm
6Pin PCI-E 150mm
Hi CypherBalance, Tks :)
Hi DragonKill101, It's an IKEA Malm :)
Thank you very much Uziduzit :) It was a really nice challenge but all worth and loving the results ;)
Tks ZipGun ;)
Hi Wolf88 :) Thanks!
I got the EK Fluid Gaming A240G Kit, was an all-inclusive initiation to Water Cooling for me :)
An SFX/SFX-L power supply improves a lot GPU temps on this case, however, many identical builds use ATX.
There is a nice video on about these questions from BitWit:
Seasonic SFX-L comes with an SFX-ATX bracket included but opted to get the Silverstone one as the PSU sits fully on the bottom and the included Seasonic stays a bit "in the air" :)
Corsair just re-design their SFX-ATX bracket included with the SF Platinum Series to be like the Silverstone.
The stock cables of the Seasonic are also a bit longer than the Corsair SF and the Corsair are not long enough as well. The Seasonic 24 Pin is routed under the Motherboard and is a tight fit but no tension on the cable or Motherboard.
Looking forward to seeing your build ;)
Ooo... one more tiny detail xD (cannot stop my self now)
On the Nano S, an SFX/SFX-L PSU goes a long way to help with GPU temps with an Air Cooling setup :)
Go Go Go!!! Let's create a community for a petition with Fractal Design! :D
And let's ask for both options! To ask... let's ask BIG! ;) :D
You're more than welcome ;)
I believe that on the N because the fans are so close from the GPU actually makes it worst and creates turbulence.
I was expecting, because of the Nano being nearly the double in size, to have some difference if not in temps at least same performance but quieter and I was surprised with both :)
About Fractal Desing, left a comment on their product suggestions form a couple of months ago asking (please, pretty please) for a Nano S2 and Meshify Nano and got an answer in about a week "Thank you for the suggestions, we will take it into consideration"... may not mean much but this got me excited! I would have one of each! HAHAHA, Hardware addiction this is :D
Let's pass the word and have more ppl requesting the same on their official form to see if will push them... or who knows is already on the works ;)
Bonus finding xD
M.2 SSD's can get quite toasty, NVMe usually a bit more than the Sata3, however, Sata3 is on the M.2 with the heatsink but tried to take it out for comparison at some point.
Both also run about 5~6c lower on the Nano S
Hi Guffen, Tks :)
Have some interesting findings, if we look at temperatures comparison and fans setup first:
On the NCase M1 had the same 3 NF-S12B all as intake, the same NF-B9 on the Cooler and one more NF-B9 as exhaust on the back.
On the Nano have only 2 NF-S12B intakes and the 3rd as exhaust, same on the CPU cooler but one less exhaust as decided not to use a dual fan on the CPU cooler and take it out completely.
In terms of PWM the fan setup is all the same between both cases, all PWM controlled via the Motherboard and set to Standard "out-of-the-box" fan curve. Same for the CPU cooler.
Constant room temperature (climate control system) at 21c
CPU idle - M1 32~35c
- Nano S 32~35c
CPU full load - M1 65~70c
- Nano S 55~60c
GPU idle - M1 32~35c
- Nano S35~37c
GPU full load - M1 75~79c
- Nano S 68~71c
Looking at temperatures only and taking into account that on the M1 I had custom feet that raise the case about 3mm (enough to make about 2c difference) and 2 fans where just under the GPU this is quite interesting. After that also taking in consideration that the Nano achieves this results being much quieter (about -5dBA than M1) unfortunately I don't have a high sensitivity mic and only used a phone app.
The M1 also looks a lot more open due to all the tiny holes all around the components but then looking at dust filters, the top is open that was causing dust to settle when PC was off or idle and the PSU was also not filtered. The Nano S may look a lot more enclosed but performs exceptionally well in comparison.
And the last point I'm happy with it is exactly ease of cleaning and dust build-up, with the M1 was finding myself dusting every 2 or 3 days, on the Nano S after a full week of use the filters were just dusted but not much dust to be honest and inside still looks pristine like if it was just built a minute ago.
After these findings not thinking to add the additional bottom fan at all for the moment.
Apologies for the extensive reply but was trying to get as much info as possible without being "too" boring ;)
Hope this helps :) let me know if there is anything I missed or you would like to know of my experience.
Cable management was challenging with the 24pin cause the SGX (SFX-L) format comes with shorter cables for ITX, however, managed to find a way. The 24 Pin is passing under the Mobo but not in tension either for the cable or Mobo :)
True! I'm really and truly a Noctua "Fan" boy! xD
Thanks ;) Feature would be cool :D we'll see soon hehehe
Hi There, Same issue here on the last 24Hrs, my images are about a half meg each, were taken with a DSLR but compressed and are "normal" JPEG compression. Thanks
You're welcome :)
M1 really got a special place, always been a dream case for me and now that managed to get one cannot image any other build on any other case! :D
Hope to see yours soon ;)
Not at all, works fine for me and good temps, never above 50c, unless you plan to overclock.
OptimumTech have an amazing video on this, have a quick look :)
This one I've done the project and build myself for my wife. Only demands I had was to be able to run Civ V and it does really well :)
IKEA MALM Desk :) £95
Has cable routing and management rack built-in
Thanks! Exactly my objective here :) web browsing and watching videos is as silent as using a tablet and gaming nearly inaudible 30cm away from it. Need to measure in DB's with a proper mic but a phone had measurements about 12~15dBA idle and around 27~30dBA load 10cm away from the case.
Thanks, it is but all worthy, coming from an even smaller case made the M actually really easy to work with.
Thanks for the support ;) Let's see if will be this time around hehe
Hi there! Amazing your M1 :)
I've been trying to buy the switch like yours. So far from amazon packages get lost (coming from Hong Kong)... can you let me know where you got it from please?
Thanks! Hope to give you some inspiration :) Looking forward for your build
I would say the SF series are the best SFF PSU's out there on their dimension (personal opinion), Seasonic is about to release their own as well but are SFX-L format. The premium cable kit was actually really easy to work with, being stiff actually helped a lot on the N cause cause manage to bend the cables first to match the routing that I wanted them to take if that makes sense, worked like a charm!
In my case the 450 is just enough, at full load my build takes about 370Watts leaving the PSU to work nearly the maximum efficiency curve while gaming. For the price point is just perfect :)
Hope that helps! Looking forward to see your NCase build.
Tks, reused most of the hardware from my previous first ITX adventure, here:
Only upgraded the graphics card and the cooling system, mainly budget constraints :)
Tks ;) planning a proper photo session tomorrow in day light with a DSLR, will post some more when ready
Tks! :) NCase always been my "dream case"... finally got one!
BTW... NCase & Noctua forever! HAHA
I've ordered the NH-D9L for me but mine is an i5 65w ;) always in time for an update for yours ;)
Just got my nCase but re-used parts form my previous build.
Waiting on a cooler upgrade and fans from Noctua same model as yours. How's the cooler performance?