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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 4 hours ago
  • 1 point

For that platform and CPU I would not even bother replacing the motherboard. Basically the i5-6500 still is a decent CPU today but in 1-2 years with how games are progressing you may want to upgrade to a 6 to 8 core CPU and when you do you will still have to buy a new motherboard again at that time. If your current motherboard is working then it would be a horrible value with no increase in performance. Performance is still tied primarily into CPU+GPU performance.

Sorry to hear your old GPU was damaged from your leak too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Newb question Corsair H100i"

  • 14 hours ago
  • 1 point

Well I was referring to if you have fans blowing air into the radiator (push) or fans sucking air out of the radiator (pull) as both having identical performance.

As for if you have the radiator at the front where the air going through it is fresh from outside the case you will get better temps on the CPU that way but higher temps on the GPU. When you have the CPU radiator as exhaust at the top instead you will have a warmer CPU and a cooler GPU as the GPU isn't getting the CPU heat.

Now the actual difference in temps is if the CPU AIO rad is intake at the front is 1 to 3 c lower CPU temps and 1 to 3 C higher GPU temps. If the CPU dumps its heat outside the case at the top for exhaust then the 1 to 3 C differences would be reversed between the 2. The difference is not going to make a huge difference overall. It will not make your PC suddenly explode if you set it one way or another. What I would suggest as you build your system put the radiator in the spot you feel most comfortable putting it or where ever looks best to you. Of course this is assuming you have sufficient case airflow which you can get in a H200 case.

I am phrasing it this way to show that front intake or top exhaust decision is really splitting hairs and both will technically work.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which SSD loads things faster: HP EX920 or Samsung 860 QVO?"

  • 16 hours ago
  • 1 point

the 860 QVO will manage 500+ gigabytes/sec, which is pretty close to the practical limit for SATA 3

You mean 500+ Magabytes/sec. No consumer storage drive is anywhere near 500 GB/s. Sata 3 speed is capped about 570 MB/s.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Newb question Corsair H100i"

  • 16 hours ago
  • 2 points

If the fans are in push or pull config the difference in cooling power between the 2 is well within the margin of error on testing. Basically that means both push and pull setups will function the same.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "adding old hard disk drive to new computer."

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

If this is a SATA HDD you can most definitely use it in a new PC. Though remember to backup anything important, as HDDs get older they have a higher chance to fail as they contain moving parts that do wear out over time. HDDs do not last forever. If it is still in good shape you can still use it but backups is a good idea.

Some motherboards will disable a SATA port or 2 if using a M.2 SSD (not always) but if it does disable said port there are usually more ports that are still active that you can use. I don't think I have ever seen a motherboard disable all sata ports to use a M.2 and even if it does disable any there will be about 2 to 7 ports that are still usable. On a b450 Tomahawk Max motherboard it has 6 sata ports and sata ports 5+6 are disabled using m.2 however sata ports 1 through 4 stay active.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are large SSD disks worth it?"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Depends by how much data you are storing. As you said a 1TB SSD can be had ~$100 these days and if that is all the storage you need then why not? For HDDs you can get them for 12+TB these days for mass bulk storage where SSD is not practical for that much.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "recommendations for a 1 tb nvme ssd"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/9nhKHx,N7zkcf/

Two options I would suggest. The 660p is the most value oriented SSD but the sabrent rocket SSD is the faster one also for a reasonable price for what you get. I know you mentioned getting dram on the SSD but even without it on a gaming PC it would be hard to tell the difference performance wise. If speed is a big concern then get the sabrent SSD.

One of the top performing NVMe SSDs out there now is the 970 evo from Samsung but the 1TB version runs for $150 USD and I would think the added cost would not be worth it considering the Sabrent is close to it speed wise and for over $30 cheaper.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air coolers for 3900X/3950X"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Fryzen... Fry-zen, name sounds like it will fry your ryzen lol. Not saying that it is a terrible cooler just found the name of it ironic!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Used AIO Water Cooling?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

2nd hand corsair AIO water cooling

I would be wary on 2nd hand AIOs as for both warranty and reliability standpoints. There are a few things I will not buy used, HDDs, AIOs, PSUs. No idea what CPU/case/existing cooler you are using so if you need an upgrade or not I cannot say. Air coolers still offer the best bang for the buck performance wise over AIOs and are much more reliable too. Also a chance you may not even need to upgrade your cooler at all and that £60 would be better spent on new games instead.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ssd help"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

The HP EX920 NVMe SSD, Sabrent Rocket SSD, Intel 660p, to name a few.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 1600 Owner, Time to Upgrade"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

A 1600 at 4.1GHz? Sounds like you did really well on the silicon lotto as many cap out between 3.8 to 4.0 GHz. There will be some gains going to a 3600 but I am not fully convinced that the improvements would yet be worth the cost of doing so. Your 1600 is still 6c12t and at a decent clock rate so it should still be able to handle all modern games well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with a PC Problem"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Basically you test it by not having it plugged in and verify the PC works that way which you have done. Then you plug that fan control in with no other changes and if the system fails to boot you know it has an issue. It is not like you are adding a power hungry GPU to a super low wattage CPU where the system is demanding too much power. Fan power draw is just a drop in the bucket compared to other things in the system. Basically you have already done the testing.

Now here is another idea, use your motherboard instead of the case fan controller. I checked the manual for your motherboard and it seems you have 3x 4 pin fan headers and in the BIOS (page 28 in manual) you can set the fan control from PWM to Voltage which allows the motherboard to control the speed of a 3 pin fan. You can even set fan curves so the motherboard will automatically adjust fan speeds according to temps. Instead of using a basic manual fan control why not use an automated fan control from the motherboard? Also if you have more than 3 fans you can get cheap 3-pin fan splitters but keep in mind no more than 3 fans split per header.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Mini ITX Cases"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Would be nice to hear how it turns out!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it Possible?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

That motherboard shows "Dual 64Gb/s M.2" so I am willing to bet that it can support 2x NVMe M.2. Worst case scenario is if you have another NVMe SSD you want to use but lack a slot for it you can get a PCIe expansion card for cheap that can support it though I don't think you need to worry about that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

I live in an area where during summer the temperature can reach up to 43degree (celcius). My cooler always make noises during summer. That's why i'm gonna try my luck on air cooler right now. I don't mind spending a little bit more money. I need recommendation for good air cooler that can perform as good as liquid cooler, but with no risk ofc! Thanks!

Yeah I would suggest this cooler:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

Liquid coolers are not automatically better performers because they use liquid, they still have to deal with thermal dynamics and the biggest bottleneck in heat transfer is actually the air. Both heat sinks and AIOs needs to get the heat to the air and for AIOs it is done at the radiator. The surface area of the fins with the air blowing through it is how heat is transferred to the air and that rate it can transfer is the biggest limiting factor. Water can hold a lot of heat but unless you get the heat out of the water it will keep heating up. With an air cooler it uses heat pipes to move the heat to the fins and then the same process takes place from the fins to the air. The more surface area and air to make contact the faster the heat is expelled from the cooler. 120mm AIOs do not have a ton of surface area for their size which is why tower coolers like the Gammaxx 400 can outperform them cooling wise. There are air coolers out there that outperform the larger water coolers too such as the Noctua NH-D15, NH-u12a, Dark Rock pro 3/4, etc.

Here is hoping your video card is fine. Though considering you have a locked 4 core CPU from Intel it does not generate much heat to start with and for most people the stock cooler that comes with it is enough to keep it within the safe temps. You on the other hand have some really hot summers you have to contend with so I would agree in the value of an aftermarket cooler. A decent budget tower cooler should be ample. Though those ambient temps I would hate, I would be less worried about my PC and more worried about myself not getting heat stroke lol.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Question about video games"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Here is hoping you get a CPU upgrade for Christmas!

Yeah I used to have a fx 8320 oc to 4.7 GHz and when I upgraded to a 1800x in early 2017 I still had a RX 470 GPU. I had upgraded the GPU since but it was a night and day difference from the FX CPU to the Ryzen even with keeping the same video card.

For the OP I would 100% totally upgrade the CPU first. Only downfall is that you also need a new motherboard and ram too. The part list Test19 posted is actually a rather great value for what you get and if you had to choose between the CPU and GPU then get everything on his list but the GPU. GPUs are easy to upgrade later on anyhow. I can understand his concern about the rx 570 being an older card today but I still think the CPU is the biggest culprit in the drops especially in busy towns

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Impact"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

For gaming 16gb is a good amount of ram to get. For workstation use it depends on what you are doing, if you plan on doing content creation like video editing and such 32gb might be a better amount to target but if it is just microsoft office and internet use then 16gb from gaming is more than ample. Also 16gb of ram is easy to fit in a budget of $1200 especially since price on ram came down.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01

That ram will work well in a gaming PC.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will this splitter work for these case fans?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Yes, those fans are just 3 pin fans and as they are not RGB they don't have a separate wire for that. A simple 3 pin splitter will wort. Only thing is I would avoid having more than 3 fans per motherboard header as they do have a limited amount of power they can provide.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with a PC Problem"

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

Sounds to me that there is likely a short circuit in the fan controller and the safeguard of the PSU is kicking in.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Impact"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

The benefits of faster ram vs slower ram does vary from game to game and task to task. Also there are differences between AMD and Intel for scaling too. As of now 3200mhz CL16 ram is a general sweet spot to aim for on price to performance without getting too much into details about CAS latency. You will not achieve any miracles in performance gains by getting the fastest ram out there so that kind of extra money is better spent elsewhere that will have a higher performance gain such as CPU or GPU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500GB NVME M.2 Suggestions"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

For a HDD just get a 7200 RPM one if you plan on having your less played games installed on it. Just be careful that you are not buying a refurbished or renewed HDD as they have been showing up on the PCPartPicker lists such as this. Go click on the amazon link and it will say it is a renewed drive which is one to avoid.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500GB NVME M.2 Suggestions"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

For NVMe SSDs these are the 3 most popular picks:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/7stQzy,6YtQzy,nqc48d/

The Intel 660p is the slowest of those 3 but if you don't mind spending a bit more you can get a 1tb 660p NVMe SSD for ~$94. If you can't stretch the budget then the HP drive is an awesome buy atm.

If it is worth the performance or not depends on what you are doing. If this is a gaming PC then you are not likely going to notice much of a difference in speed between all of these NVMe SSDs. What you will notice however is when you start installing all your games the capacity of the SSD will become far more noticeable so a larger capacity will mean more. If you can stretch the budget ~$24 you can get a 1TB NVMe SSD and that is half a TB worth of more games you can install.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cooler with thermal paste?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

I don't think I have ever seen a new Coolermaster cooler come without thermal paste either pre applied, in a squeeze pouch, or in a tube.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does anybody else feel like they overpaid for their PC, especially during 2017?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

In my case the extra money paid was worth it due to what it replaced. I used to run a FX 8320 @4.7 GHz and it just simply was not doing the job it needed to anymore. I would not have been able to deal with that system if I decided to withhold upgrading till this year for better prices. The upgrade was out of necessity rather than scratching the upgrade itch. I did save money and not upgrade my GPU at the time of the build (rx 470) and I waited until after the GPU prices dropped before upgrading to a GTX 1070. At least the 470 had acceptable performance to hold off buying until the prices dropped and I still have that GPU in my other HTPC system.

I guess this deals with the old question, "shall I upgrade?". Some people say wait till the next new thing is out and others say get it now. If someone wants to upgrade they can wait but if someone needs to upgrade then just do so. Nature of PCs where better stuff comes out all the time and hardware loses value over time.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "If you could have one super power, what would it be?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 3 points

But there is no cow level.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Velkase Alternatives"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

You can still pre-order that Velkase. If pre ordered they state on their site "Current shipping date estimate: November 29 - December 3". So you will have to wait a couple of weeks for shipping but luckily it isn't that far away.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Mini ITX Cases"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

If super small to fit in a bag easily is a requirement how about this case? https://www.velkase.com/products/velka-3

It will be a bit of work to build and you will need to select some parts around the build and it is currently on pre-order till end of nov to early dec. LTT also did a video on this case to show what it can do: https://youtu.be/tFmb5h1lN-w

You will miss out on the 240mm AIO cooler on it and need a low profile air cooler but a decent 6 or 8 core CPU at stock speeds still performs very well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cooler with thermal paste?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

99.9% of coolers out there come with thermal paste. If it is a good quality cooler chances are the thermal paste that comes with it will also be a good quality paste too.

Also you didn't mention which cooler outside of "this CPU cooler".

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

aios r dumb

There are pros and cons between both AIOs and air coolers so they are not inherently dumb. Generally 120mm AIOs offer a poor price to performance as a $20 tower cooler can outperform one but let's say you have a Cooler Master Elite 130 PC case and need a bit stronger cooling than the stock cooler or a super low profile air cooler. A 120mm AIO would actually be the best performing cooler in that setup as said $20 tower cooler cannot fit.

As for larger cases that have the room 240mm or larger AIOs do perform well enough for high end CPUs and people do love the aesthetics of them. You will be paying a premium fee to get a well built one but it is not wrong to spend extra money on aesthetics as long as the PC actually works in the end. Another example is that people buy RGB stuff for their builds all the time and that does not add any performance at all. That is their choice.

Air cooler downfalls is that they tend to take up more room so you would need a case that can accommodate the added girth. Also if a PC needs to be shipped having a Noctua NH-D15 could be disastrous where the weight of the cooler on the motherboard can cause damage with the PC bouncing around in shipping. AIOs does a much better job with this need. Now there are air coolers that show up the higher end AIOs in raw performance and also make less noise. Also with no pump there is less that can possibly break down on an air cooler. Price to performance is another good aspect of air coolers so if the cons don't matter to you then air coolers are something to seriously consider.

Now with all that being said I do prefer having air coolers myself. I even got the Dark Rock Pro 3 for my main rig too and I can't get my 8c16t CPU to hit 60c under max load.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

If you can't get the cooler serviced/replaced under the manufacturer warranty and need to buy another cooler then I would recommend the following cooler as a replacement. Assuming your PC case can hold a 155mm tower cooler:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

Can get it for ~$20 USD at the moment and it has some awesome performance when compared to 120mm AIO coolers. If you can get your current cooler replaced/repaired under warranty you can either use that or sell it and get the tower cooler anyhow. I see you have a completed build that has a Corsair SPEC-ALPHA case and if that is the case you are using the tower cooler will fit. Also you have a locked i5 CPU so that tower cooler is still going to be overkill for your cooling needs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

If it is under warranty then RMA it if not then get a new cooler. A budget 120mm fan tower cooler is likely going to out perform it and not cost a lot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I need a AIO for cheap"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

AIOs are not better coolers because they are AIOs. Air coolers can perform really well too and if budget is a concern rather than go for a super cheap AIO with a poor build quality I would much rather opt into a much more reliable air cooler that can also do the job for less money. All 3 of those coolers I linked perform a tad lower than a good 240mm AIO that is over double the price of those. Also to mention all 3 of those coolers will blow any of the 120mm AIO coolers away in performance too. Considering you are looking for only a mild OC on a 2700 all 3 of those coolers will have ample thermal headroom over what you are wanting to do.

For AIOs they have many more components and thus many more points of failure. On top of just fans they also have tubing, water coolant, and a pump. Well made AIOs are more than likely to last 5-7 years with no issues at all and a long 5 year warranty on an AIO means the manufacturer is confidant yours will last. When corners are cut to save on production costs quality control, quality of materials and design tolerances tend to be compromised in the name of costs. That is where you find 1 year warranties on AIOs and the cheap ~$80ish AIOs such as this rosewell one. I would rather go for a strong air cooler than deal with the issues people in those reviews had to deal with on that rosewell cooler. The air cooler will also run quieter too!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I need a AIO for cheap"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Why does it have to be a liquid cooler? There are air coolers that can achieve that easily and more for the 2700.

Here are a few coolers to check out:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/wjmLrH,8GBrxr,YsHRsY/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noctua NH-D15 something feels off"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

that entire cooler is bent out of place, leaning towards the back of the PC. Like something heavy was pushed onto it or the box the PC was in was dropped on the back.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Power supply failure worries"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

Every brand and model of power supply has a chance to fail. Higher quality PSUs have much lower failure rates than cheaper ones. Another thing is that when they fail cheaper PSUs are more likely to take out other hardware when they blow up. Also crap power supplies can have voltage variations which can pop your capacitors. This is why we always recommend a good quality PSU for a pc.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 9 or i9 build for Gaming and 4k upgradability..."

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

He could just go with the r7-3700x and call it a day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 9 or i9 build for Gaming and 4k upgradability..."

  • 7 days ago
  • 3 points

Keep in mind the higher the resolution the more GPU bound gaming is and less CPU bound. CPU differences I would only really consider between super high refresh rates like 165+ FPS. At that point I would look to an overlcocked Intel CPU at 5.0 GHz. 4k is still mostly as 60hz and to be frank a r5-1600 can pull 60fps off easily assuming the GPU is powerful enough for the resolution needed.

Both the high end AMD and Intel CPUs are powerful CPUs and will game very well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Desktop Upgrades or a New Laptop for College?"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

Well it would help to know more about the specs of a laptop you need for your computer sciences course. Depending on the software they might get you to run it would suck if the laptop could not handle it. If it just needs to do basic tasks like internet, MS office, etc then depending on the CPU/ram of your current laptop you might be able to swap the internal HDD for a SSD to make it feel faster than it has ever felt before. If you can get away with that then you can get a SATA 500gb SSD for a good price and might have money left over for a new GPU too.

If there are certain specs you need your school laptop to meet then I suggest looking into a laptop that at least meets those specs. The one for school is going to be more important to have functional than better game FPS at home.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2700x vs 3700x Streaming"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

I found a 2700x for $130 NEW

Nice deal. the actual performance difference is not huge and as Gilroar stated windows scheduler is still a bit wonky on the 3700x but that is something that can be fixed with future windows updates. Once it is fixed the speed difference is by far smaller than the price difference making the 2700x an awesome deal.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "SSD vs HD"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

Agreed on if budget is a concern a 500gb SSD is a solid starting option as you can get windows and several games on it at once and it is easy to add more storage later on. OP would just need to remember to save the sata cables that comes with the motherboard so he can hook up other sata SSDs or HDDs.

If OP knows he will add more storage later when building the system it does not hurt to pre-wire the build to have the sata cables plugged into the motherboard and routed to where the drive cages are. Basically that means when a new drive is added all he has to do is put it into the case bracket for it and plug in the cables that are already there. I often do that for other people's builds when there are extra sata cables with the motherboard so upgrading is easier later on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should i use an sshd for my server"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

Speed can be defined more than just the max read/write speed of a drive. Random 4k performance can make a large difference if you are running programs off it where there is a huge difference between HDDs and SSDs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PSU very hot"

  • 8 days ago
  • 2 points

I only listed it as a third possibility but the first possibility seems most likely to me. I have seen people change out modular PSUs while not also changing the cables that plug into it and you can fry hardware by doing that. Sure the pins on things like the motherboard or drives are always the same standards but when that cable gets to the PSU and plugs in there then you will find there is no standard and what pin is what changes. It is likely some wires are swapped around causing a hot wire to go directly to ground causing a short.

If you ever change a PSU also change all the power cables to the ones that came with said new PSU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Sleeved cables"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Series RMi, RMx, SF

RM is not RMx. Look for the RMx line if you want it to be compatible. Though you could just get a kit from cablemod instead as you can pick the PSU you have and get compatible cables.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PSU very hot"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

starts to get red hot and melt the plastic

That is a serious problem, I would count that as a fire hazard. Couple things I can think of as the cause:

  • if you are using modular cables from another PSU on this one the pins on the PSU side of the cables may be different causing issues with what they are plugged into
  • you have a short somewhere and the PSU is not able to deal with it. They normally have safeguards to cut themselves off if a short is detected and this may not be working
  • you just have a bad PSU

NO PSU should be getting red hot and melting stuff around it. I would stop using it right away as red hot metal can catch stuff on fire.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is 600 watts enough?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 3 points

I'v never needed a Platinum Certified PSU

Just to expand on this for the OP:

Efficiency rating is not a quality rating. The peak efficiency for Platinum is 90% while gold is 87% which means out of the power your PSU draws from the wall that percentage from that power is being fed to your PC and the rest is going to heat. That is why PSUs have fans. Say you run your PC for 4 hours a day gaming with it overclocked running at 100%, you would be lucky to hit 500w power draw but let's use that number to be generous. The platinum PSU will have about 50w of wasted power while the gold will have 65w of wasted power. We are talking the difference of one 100w equivalent LED bulb in power usage. Considering costs of power it will still take over 5 years of use for you to recoup the cost difference from a gold PSU to platinum PSU in power savings if you live in an area with really high power costs. If not that time could be over 10+ years to recoup the costs. If your system is only drawing 250-300w which is much more reasonable while gaming (or under 100 at idle) the power gap is even smaller.

There is much more of an argument in a business server environment where they got many servers running hard 24/7 and with vastly higher power usage the difference in power usage actually means something tangible here. In a home setting I would not bother wasting money on the higher efficiency in hopes to save on the power bill.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will a m.2 pcie adapter slow the read/write speed of the ssd?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Well there are 2 types of M.2 PCIe cards. Sata based and NVMe based. They are very different as the Sata based ones needs a sata controller on the card and the NVMe one doesn't need a controller and just connects the PCIe lanes from the slot to the m.2 drive. As a result the simplicity of the NVMe PCIe expansion cards are cheaper.

As for speeds I don't really think there will be much penalty at all. Sata speeds cap out 560 MB/s and if you use a PCIe 4x card the slot can provide nearly 4GB/s so the bottleneck will be the SATA speed. Even if you have 4 SATA SSDs chugging away at the same time.

NVMe adaptors usually have 1 or 2 slots a card and a 2 slot card will run on PCIe x8 and provide 4 PCI lanes per NVMe drive. I have seen some adaptors where it only has a 4x slot and 2 NVMe SSDs and if you try to use the full speed on both that is when the slot becomes a bottleneck. For example 2x samsung 970 evo SSDs each reading at 3.5 GB/s that is a demand of 7GB/s. Now no home user is generally going to even do this but if it is bottlenecked on just a 4x slot then they will have to share ~4GB/s. To be honest outside data center loads I can't see very many things benefitting from that kind of SSD throughput.

If you get an 8x card and plug it into a 4x slot it is possible one NVMe slot on the expansion card may not work if the 4 PCIe lanes the card connects to is not even there. Check your motherboard manual about your PCIe slots and see what they run at.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What Is the Best Cheap Cooler"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Would help to know what CPU and PC case you are using or going to get tp help suggesting the cooler. CPU is important so we can judge the amount of heat it will generate and case for space requirements to ensure the cooler will fit. Depending on the answer there is a possibility you may not have to spend anywhere near $80 on a cooler.

For example if you plan on getting a r5-2600 and don't plan to OC then you can get a more than ample cooler for it for under $20 USD: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should i use an sshd for my server"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

I would say these are his options:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/ftPfrH,44Gj4D,hTzkcf,pxKcCJ/

If he has not purchased any of the hardware yet he can ditch the HP NVMe SSD and get a 1TB SSD and it won't cost him too much more. He can partition the SSD to have ~80gb for the OS and other stuff and the rest for minecraft. Well technically you don't need to partition and keep it all on the same drive letter. For example these 2 options:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
Storage HP EX900 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $36.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.49 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $76.48
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Storage Team L5 LITE 3D 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $82.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $82.99
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-11 19:17 EST-0500

Only about a $6 difference. Can also upgrade storage at a later time if 1TB isn't enough.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which is better i9 9900k or i7 9700k"

  • 10 days ago
  • 1 point

I would not count Read Dead Redemption 2 performance yet until they get the bugs worked out to make it generally playable. JayzTwoCents did a video about it where out of several PCs he tried to play it on only one of his PCs worked and the rest could not even launch the game. Not sure how much has been fixed since that video but it was known then there were some serious issues with the game.

For games using hyperthreading you would see more of a difference when comparing a 4 core 4 thread CPU to a 4 core 8 thread CPU. Most benchmarks for games set the 9700k and the 9900k to be extremely close in performance. Close enough you will never tell the 2 apart in a blind side by side test. Both CPUs are good CPUs but if gaming is the only concern I would opt for the 9700k instead. You still get 8 full cores on your CPU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "With m.2 or SSD in general...any reason to have 2 smaller drives vs. 1 larger drive?"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

if one hard drive goes bad, everything is gone

SSDs tend to be more reliable than HDDs due to their lack of moving parts. Not saying they will never fail in a home user setting they are less likely to fail than a HDD

second drive has OS backup, storage etc

This is not a valid form of backup by second internal drive. If you are hit with a power surge and it fries everything in your PC then there goes your backup. Better idea for external option for backup and the best idea is to also have an offsite backup such as using an online backup like backblaze.

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