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Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600 w/2080 bottlenecking?"

  • 7 hours ago
  • 1 point

There is always a limiting factor in a system, and it depends on the workload. Even when gaming, running CSGO at 720p minimum settings aiming for maximum FPS will have very different demands than trying to drive three 4K displays in a surround setup at max settings in a graphically demanding game.

3600 + 2080 Super is a good set up, in my opinion. Grab a nice 1440p 144Hz or ultrawide monitor and go to town.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "80+ bronze vs 80+ gold"

  • 8 hours ago
  • 1 point

I'd go for this one for the price right now. I think full modularity will be nice considering that case isn't as long, so less space to hide excess cabling behind the shroud. It's also a solid unit being a rebranded Seasonic Focus Plus.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "80+ bronze vs 80+ gold"

  • 9 hours ago
  • 2 points

Certification means little. A well built bronze unit is better than a poorly built gold unit.

What is your budget/system?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD Ryzen 3700x temp"

  • 13 hours ago
  • 1 point

3700x owner here.

I'd recommend trying the stock cooler first. There are other factors that can affect temperature; ambient temperature, voltage your motherboard puts through if you have it set to auto, mounting pressure, manufacturing tolerances, airflow in your case, etc.

There's also the issue of noise; my stock cooler sounds like a jet engine to me at high RPM needed to keep everything cool.

My experience hasn't been particularly great with the stock cooler and I'm upgrading, but I've also heard reports from people that are just fine with the stock cooler.

If you want a cheap upgrade, even a $20 tower cooler like the Gammaxx 400 will outperform the stock cooler. This can always be added later though if you don't like how the stock one performs.

Generally speaking "as cool as possible" is ideal; the cooler Ryzen runs the higher it will boost to a point. As you approach 100C it will outright thermal throttle.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Small Business Server Build"

  • 1 day ago
  • 3 points

You could consider a dedicated solution like this.

If you want to build and want expansion options, I think TR4 platform is a reasonably economic solution.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Threadripper 1900X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $179.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock X399 Taichi ATX sTR4 Motherboard $319.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $62.99 @ Newegg
Storage Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $74.98 @ Amazon
Storage Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $167.99 @ Corsair
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate IronWolf NAS 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $268.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $158.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $129.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 860 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $141.17 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $3481.91
Mail-in rebates -$15.00
Total $3466.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-17 14:25 EST-0500

It's not the fanciest (no 128GB of ECC RAM or RTX 8000) but you can easily put all that storage in RAID 10 with this solution for about 40TB of redundant and fairly speedy storage, along with the 1TB M.2 drive to act as a dedicated cache. You could also purchase a dedicated SAS RAID card and go for an even larger array with more RAID options, although then you might want a server chassis to put it all in. The CPU is the most basic of the Threadripper lineup but could be expanded out to a 2970WX or something down the line if desired; likewise, RAM and GPU can be upgraded pretty heavily. The CPU and GPU will handle some workstation oriented tasks just fine though, even with the NAS running in the background.

You could also go straight for the SAS PCIe card + expanders option, throw it on an AM4 motherboard with a cheap 2600 or something.

Lots of options, but there's a few ideas for you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Parents Don't Like Gaming"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

minor

parents don't like gaming

You don't have a choice. Trying to write all the reasons you want a powerful gaming PC won't help. Specifically ask them their reasons so you can target those, and you will likely have to compromise in some fashion if you get anywhere at all.

this would also allow me to do programming and stuff

I've seen computer science students do everything on a 5+ year old Macbook. Hobbyists working with nothing but decade old business machines and Raspberry Pis.

i7-8550u laptop

epic trash

This is a lot to unpack. Is it overheating or sounding like a jet engine? Maybe it just needs repasting and dusting. 8GB of RAM goes a lot further than most give credit for, and you could easily look at upgrading to 16GB. The unit itself was probably not cheap; similar units can still cost around $500. Imagine how it looks to your parents when you claim you want a new PC for 'programming' but turn around and call what you have "epic trash" without even trying to do this stuff with it.

As far as gaming, you also aren't giving your laptop enough credit. Esports titles and MMOs can run just fine, and older titles (think Fallout 3) should run at lower settings. Emulators should also run; there are entire Youtube channels dedicated to romhacks and playing old games through emulation. Recording doesn't take too much overhead, and Premiere Pro might not have the nicest experience but will function on that system (although a RAM upgrade would be a good improvement).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Intel i5 9600k or AMD Ryzen 3600x?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

MSI's motherboards

It's not about specific branding here. MSI has some great motherboards available like the x570 Unify or B450 Tomahawk. The problem is they absolutely screwed up their lower end X570 boards. The VRMs and heatsinks are abysmal in comparison to pretty much every other X570 board out there. This may not matter as much with a 3600 for example, but if you wanted to pick up a used 3900x or other beefy upgrade down the line, the VRM can thermal throttle. And without a proper finned heatsink like the B450 Tomahawk, airflow isn't as effective in keeping temps under control. Finally, there are other boards available at a similar or lower price that do not have the VRM concerns at all. Gigabyte's Aorus Pro WiFi is an example at a similar price. Asus did a remarkable job with their budget X570 boards, especially the Tuf. This is why I recommend the Tuf over the Carbon if you dont need WiFi 6, or the Gigabyte Pro if you do.

double NVMe setup

Endurance scaling, cost, and leaving room for expansion. You can set up the disk into two partitions if desired.

At the very least just get a decent 1tb unit. HP's EX920, Silicon Power A80, something like that.

PSU

The Phanteks is a rebrand Seasonic Focus Plus Gold. It's a bit higher performing and a more modern platform than the G1+ for not much more money. You could also spend an extra $10 for the Corsair RMx which would be quieter.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What Qualifies a "Budget Build"?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Personally, I think it depends on a couple things, such as what the user is doing with the PC and what point does further investment in parts hit diminishing returns.

That second point is how I define mid-range; for example, once you get beyond cheap 2060 Supers or so you start paying a pretty hefty premium for extra performance. But, you can get a pretty solid performance increase for the money going from a 1660 Super to a 2060. So for gaming, if the budget is constrained below these types of parts, I'd consider it a "budget build" or perhaps more accurately "entry level." Such as a 2600+1650 Super on a B450 board with a small SSD and used HDD and Corsair CX PSU in a Cougar MX330 would probably be close to an upper boundary for the category.

For an intensive workload like rendering video though, beefier CPUs are commonplace and adding cores may be important. Some programs also don't take much advantage of GPU acceleration, or need more RAM to work properly. An entry level build for these tasks would look different, such as having a 2700x and 32GB of RAM whereas a high end build in the same category may have a 3rd gen Threadripper part.

For some generic office work though, much of the workload isn't intensive and a budget build could involve a Ryzen APU on A320 and a tiny SSD.

So yeah. Depends on the workload. With the right workload there could probably be a case for a 3950x/2070 Super to be a budget option, if it is far more common or preferred that people use Threadrippers and Quadros for the same task.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Intel i5 9600k or AMD Ryzen 3600x?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $169.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler $42.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $234.99 @ B&H
Memory OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $116.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX950 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $249.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card -
Power Supply Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $914.94
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-14 14:40 EST-0500

-2700x for your VM workloads and "other stuff" would probably be more valuable than the slight single core advantage of the 3600. For purely gaming the 3600 is slightly better; depends on your priorities and workload. The 3600x is not worth the extra cost.

-Cheaper RAM at the same spec.

-Cheaper but still very effective CPU cooler.

-Much better quality motherboard. I'm assuming you wanted Wifi 6 support. If not, the Asus Tuf Wifi is cheaper and still higher quality than the Pro Carbon.

-Swapped the jank double NVMe setup for a good 2TB drive. Simpler and a lot more space.

-Better PSU.

I would not recommend the 9600k whatsoever. Dead platform, so the highest CPU you can get is the 9900k and upcoming chips will use a new socket. Some modern titles are showing issues on 6 core/6 thread CPUs at high settings, and this multithreading trend is going to continue. AM4 platform wins in upgrade potential and core count for the money.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best MoBo for ryzen 5 2600 and rtx 2060"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

"Best" is a very vague descriptor.

For a budget board, the B450 Tomahawk Max is solid and will do what you need it to do.

Or the B450 Gaming Pro Carbon if you really want wifi.

Budget Asus X570 boards are good if you wanted to go X570 for some reason. Even the X570 Tuf Gaming Wifi is only $30 more than the B450 Pro Carbon.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will I be able to transfer my W10 license to new hardware (was W7 Retail)"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Since you upgraded a Windows 7 Retail license, you have a Windows 10 Retail license.

If it is linked to your Microsoft account, then you should be able to sign in to your Microsoft account on the new hardware and reactivate. Your old key also may work for reactivation. In short, either method may work.

If for some reason neither of the above work, Microsoft support should be able to help you since it is linked to your account and you have the original key.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help picking a SAFE, but budget PSU..."

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

If you don't mind a MIR, the CX550 from Corsair is your best bet. Link

After MIR it's 10 more than the 500W BR and is a nicer unit with good reviews out there.

The 500w BR though is at least advertised as using DC-DC conversion for the minor rails, which is a good sign, and the older BT had tested working protections. Unfortunately with EVGA it can be extremely difficult to assume a newer power supply in the same segment is as good as a previous one (compare the G5 to the G3, for example), but I'd take a BR over most other budget supplies. The CX would be another step up, with independent testing available and good results. Personally, I'd go with the CX and deal with the MIR and $10 more just for the peace of mind.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Have i got enough wattage for this build?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Fans barely use power. Even a large 200mm ARGB fan plus controller uses less than 5W.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM for ryzen?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Personally, I'd see what you could overclock that RAM to first before spending money on replacing it.

And like kschendel said, spending that money on other parts may still be of greater benefit.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1000 Bucks AMD Fanboy PC Build"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $114.00 @ B&H
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $394.99 @ B&H
Case Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $9.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan $9.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1094.91
Mail-in rebates -$10.00
Total $1084.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-12 14:01 EST-0500

Much better thermals all around, better SSD, and better performance (5700 XT vs non-XT, plus better boosting from lower temps).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2600x $80 right now at micro center"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

If I lived by a Microcenter I would never have money again.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Kingston A2000 vs Pioneer APS-SE20G-256 or similar"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

The Pioneer is a another Phison E12s based drive; what few reports I've seen put it similar to the Corsair MP510 in terms of performance in most workloads other than ones sensitive to the lower amount of DRAM.

The overall performance difference is likely unnoticeable. I'd pick whichever has the better warranty available to you. Buying off Amazon shouldn't affect the warranty as long as you get a new in box drive and don't go to the sketchiest third party merchant you can order from through Amazon.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bernie Sanders declares Iowa victory!"

  • 6 days ago
  • 3 points

Warren and Biden both really plummeted. :o

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Build for a friend"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $119.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Inland 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $52.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $158.98 @ Newegg
Case Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $64.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $635.93
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $610.93
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 14:59 EST-0500

I tried not to cheap out too much. Going used for a Ryzen CPU could save some money.

That case/PSU combo he had in the build is a fire hazard and should not be used under any circumstances.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i5 4670k - still room to upgrade GPU, or wait and rebuild?"

  • 8 days ago
  • 2 points

It depends on settings and desired performance.

I've seen a lot of cases in modern games where 4c/4t games can struggle. I myself owned an i5-4670k/7950 Boost build, and I upgraded the GPU to a Vega 56, followed recently by a 3700x (Hindsight, should have went with a 2600 or 3600, but that's another story).

At the $150 range you are looking at a couple bucks more for a 1650 Super, which if I recall is close to a 1060 6GB in terms of performance. This is a decent uplift in some more modern games vs your 780.

If you do upgrade your GPU, you can later upgrade your CPU/mobo/RAM. It looks like you bought a retail Windows key that should be upgrade-able to Windows 10, so you shouldn't have an issue there, and your PSU should also still be fine for another round.

I guess to try to be less long-winded, you could benefit from both a CPU and GPU upgrade. Either would give you uplift, but likely a GPU upgrade first would be a good idea.

That's my opinion at least.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "why is everything so much more expensive"

  • 8 days ago
  • 2 points

Yup. And flash oversupply is correcting, slowly raising SSD/RAM prices over the last couple months.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bernie Sanders declares Iowa victory!"

  • 11 days ago
  • 6 points

no one is screaming the downfall of Capitalism

To be fair, I've heard from more than a few anti-capitalists and the sentiment seems to run fairly deep among some circles in the progressive left.

A lot of times people can agree on something but don't agree on how to get there.

Sometimes I don't think people could agree that the sky is blue, let alone politics.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU overclocking"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

Yup.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4k gaming monitor for <$800"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

You could go ultrawide 1440p IPS 120Hz: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c9qbt6/dell-aw3418dw-341-3440x1440-120hz-monitor-aw3418dw

(Wow, that's the first time I've ever recommended an Alienware product. Huh.)

Otherwise there is this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwdxFT/acer-xv273k-pbmiipphzx-270-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-xv273k-pbmiipphzx

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU overclocking"

  • 11 days ago
  • 2 points

Turn on PBO and call it a day.

It's not flashy or exciting but will get you pretty much maximum performance.

You might be able to eke out a bit of gain by focusing on your RAM; get it to about 3600MHz or as close as you can then tighten timings as much as you can.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Time to upgrade my AMD FX-6300"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $144.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $129.94 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card $509.99 @ B&H
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit $119.04 @ HP
Monitor Pixio PX7P 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor $429.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1803.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-07 11:06 EST-0500

Just an idea to get you started; there is definitely some flexibility in the budget to suit your preferences on monitor options/RGB/etc.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Time to upgrade my AMD FX-6300"

  • 11 days ago
  • 2 points

If you are just gaming, the 3600 is excellent value. It comes pretty close to the higher Ryzen SKUs in terms of gaming and the AM4 platform will likely have another round of CPUs released for it. The 2700x is also pretty solid in its own right, especially if you do any workloads that are properly multithreaded.

Do you need other peripherals like a new monitor?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Time to upgrade my AMD FX-6300"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

Depending on location/budget the Ryzen 2600, 2700x, and 3600 are all very good options. Throw one on a B450 Tomahawk Max or X570 Asus Prime-P or Tuf and you are set.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "axolotls"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Axolotl a cute.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bernie Sanders declares Iowa victory!"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

It is a bit complicated. The first alignment, to my understanding, isn't a formal secret ballot vote. People go stand where their preferred candidate is. So you could say he received 6000 more votes as the #1 choice; what's misleading is the first alignment doesn't actually matter other than weeding out non viable candidates and is not the end-all vote advertised by Sanders when citing this statistic.

Before I'm accused of hating Sanders, I should point out that Buttigieg used the mess to his advantage in his early declaration. It's a dumb gambit, but in sounding upbeat and declaring himself the victor he got to present a positive image in the media. Any way you can twist the numbers to your advantage at any time, that's the political game. I suppose such tactics always just rub me the wrong way.

Warren

I can't write her out yet. Like you point out with Biden/Bloomberg and moderate support though, I think she has some hold over the progressive support... although I know some number of Warren supporters wouldn't vote Sanders. What will be interesting is if it comes down to Sanders vs. Buttigieg for sure, then who will the Biden/Klobuchar/Warren/Bloomberg/Yang/etc supporters go for?

Biden/Bloomberg

I know Bloomberg has been spending money left and right. It'll be interesting to see how many votes he can buy. He didn't campaign in Iowa though and he had extremely small turnout there.

As for Biden, going in his appeal was a return to status quo and he had to survive. The biggest issue for Democrats right now is electability/beating Trump. His support has been on the decline from the start, and Iowa calls into question his electability. If he can't top New Hampshire, it could be a downward spiral for his campaign. I suspect his supporters will primarily switch to Buttigieg.

I can't see [Klobuchar] going anywhere

She went a lot farther than I thought she would; she went from practically unknown to bottom rungs of the second tier. I don't think these results are enough though, as Midwest appeal was her biggest electability argument and she came in 5th, although she carried a few counties.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Bernie Sanders declares Iowa victory!"

  • 12 days ago
  • 5 points

This is a bit misleading.

lead of 6000 votes

At the end of the first alignment. However, this is not the number for the final vote nor how state delegate equivalents are calculated.

substantial lead in the popular vote

Again, not the final vote, although he does retain in lead in the final alignment vote counts of about 2500.

Iowa victory

At the moment, Buttigieg has 3 more SDEs and sanders has an edge in final alignment votes. There are still more districts that need to report, but it seems likely that Iowa will be an effective tie.

Joe Biden

He had a terrible showing. If it is repeated in New Hampshire/Super Tuesday his campaign is probably over far earlier than pundits anticipated.

Warren

At least worth mentioning she put in a poor showing as well; not much better than Biden although she did score a couple SDEs.

Klobuchar

She did much better than I would have guessed, coming close to Biden.

Iowa Caucus

The numbers right now have also been brought into question and it seems likely no one will be able to truly declare victory. The traditional importance of this caucus is likely going to be thrown to New Hampshire into Super Tuesday instead, although I suspect fans of Yang, Steyer, and possibly Klobuchar and Biden may decide to change votes to one of the more "electable" candidates.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Am I out of luck?"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

You could consider picking up a Wraith Prism secondhand. While not the best it is better than the Stealth and looks nice.

Out of the three listed the be quiet cooler is the best option.

Is it a dumb idea

By some metrics an AiO is a dumb idea. Aesthetic preference is subjective, so any tradeoffs between aesthetics and performance are going to be interpreted differently by different people.

It may not be objectively optimal performance. But, if you are satisfied by the performance of the cooler you select and like the aesthetics better, then that cooler would be a better value to you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Im building a gaming pc for around this price and I need opinions on this build"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

If it is strictly for gaming there isn't much difference between the 3600 and 3700x.

You also forgot RAM.

Reconfiguring with this in mind, you can also squeeze a 2070 Super in the build, good X570 board, and RAM for about the same price.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $164.99 @ B&H
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $129.94 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card $509.99 @ B&H
Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $95.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1265.85
Mail-in rebates -$10.00
Total $1255.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-06 11:16 EST-0500

Comment reply on Forum Topic "need ideas for a 5,000 USD build"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

I'm not entirely clear on what this is for. Is it a practice build that will be used as a showpiece? Is it a shared gaming PC? It might not be planned for workstation use, but what about server use or virtualization (anything from NAS functions, to handling a number of connected users working on various projects, etc)?

$5000 USD is a large budget and a build can go any number of directions with that kind of cash.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "logged into my old account after 3 years..."

  • 12 days ago
  • 3 points

I'm no longer a gamer

Can always start again, haha.

Or take up a hobby like 3D modelling or video editing.

I cringed so hard at my posts

People change. As you get old you will look back on all kinds of stupid things you did and wonder why, or know why and think your reasoning was even more stupid. :D

Comment reply on Forum Topic "144hz 1ms vs. 165hz 4ms?"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

It really comes down to specific monitors and the underlying panel tech for me.

A 144Hz "1ms" IPS display would be more attractive to me than a 165Hz "4ms" TN display.

Most manufacturers pretty much list their response times as general class rather than actual tested times; or the tested time is on an overdrive mode with so much overshoot no one would ever use it.

Response times are also reported as "grey to grey" averages. Black to white response times for example are often much more difficult, especially for VA panels, leading to black smearing or trails behind light objects.

For these reasons I tend to rely on reviews of specific monitors, or if they are not available, at least other monitors using a similar or the same underlying panel.

I'm biased toward IPS-like displays, although I'd probably like a fairly fast response VA if I saw one. It's personal preference though; some people prefer a good TN with extremely fast response times for example.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1600AF discontinued"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Not surprising, but F all the same.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4.1 gb R.A.M used on idle"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

When you have a couple programs open 4GB idle is just fine.

use google

Chrome and most internet browsers are notorious RAM hogs. I'm a tabaholic and I've easily used 6+GB of RAM just with one browser.

You can use Task Manager to see what is taking RAM (in the Processes tab, click on the Memory column), but don't be alarmed unless you start experiencing stutters or slowdowns and are at 95%+ usage.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4.1 gb R.A.M used on idle"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

That doesn't sound bad. Even if the RAM is reserved, it doesn't mean it is in active use. Assuming you have 8GB or more of RAM you are just fine.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need A Second Monitor For Streaming"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Some people like them, some people don't. If you have an electronics store nearby you might be able to find a curved monitor on display; while it might not be the exact model it might give you some idea whether you want to drop the money on one or not.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the scythe mugen 5 still the "best" air cooler for am4?"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

If you have it you can check your temps under load, but the upgrade does make more sense now.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need A Second Monitor For Streaming"

  • 13 days ago
  • 2 points

That monitor you have would actually be a perfect secondary monitor in my opinion; it's small and IPS. If you do make that your secondary monitor, you can get a budget gaming monitor as a nice upgrade such as:

VA for dark room use: AOC C24G1

IPS for brighter room use: Asus VP249QGR

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is the scythe mugen 5 still the "best" air cooler for am4?"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

What motherboard? Even if the VRMs are bad if it works might as well use it.

The Mugen 5 Rev B is good. $62 is a bit much; you can get an Arctic 34 eSports Duo, Thermalright 140 True Spirit, or Thermalright Macho rev. B for less money.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Budget gaming pc"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

If you already have a PC and it is meeting your needs (or close enough to it) the longer you can wait the better. New tech comes out, used market gets newer tech, etc.

waiting longer for better lifespan and temps

If you mean for the CPU cooler, it isn't a large expense and could be added later.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Budget gaming pc"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €169.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €115.00 @ Azerty
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €81.85 @ Megekko
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €116.16 @ Azerty
Video Card KFA2 GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB EX (1-Click OC) Video Card €699.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND
Case Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case €64.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €109.00 @ Azerty
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit €129.00 @ Azerty
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total €1483.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-05 16:19 CET+0100

You can fit in a 2080 Super which should help a lot at 4k resolution.

If you can find a cheap 4 heatpipe tower cooler for around 20 euro I'd recommend it over the stock cooler.

3600+B450 is great value especially without access to cheap 1600 AF.

Case comes with three fans and a mesh front. Pretty good stock airflow at a budget price.

1TB of SSD storage and a good PSU, along with a full retail copy of Windows round off the build.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Good headset for ~$150? (Gaming)"

  • 13 days ago
  • 2 points

The recent Arctis 7 would be the best wireless headset in that budget from professional reviews I've seen (rtings for example is a great source).

The Cloud Flight are a bit cheaper and should be very comfortable if my Cloud IIs are anything to go by.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I susoect my HDD is about to fail.. should i diconnect it until i can replace it"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

Just unplug the cables from it. Don't remove it entirely.

If you have extremely important files on there, you may want to try to get as much as you can off first.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "X570 UD or B450 Tomohawk max?"

  • 13 days ago
  • 2 points

For $5 more than the UD you can get the Asus Prime-P which is a much better X570 board. The UD has lower side power delivery components on the back of the board with no heatsinking, worse audio, and worse build quality.

You can't really go wrong with the Prime-P or the Tomahawk Max. The Prime-P has better VRMs and if you decide to upgrade to a used 3000 series or 4000 series down the line you will get the benefit of PCIe 4.0, which may or may not have any relevance.

At $30 I'd rather get the X570 board, personally.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Personal Deep learning/AI PC - ($10,000-25000)"

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

Tech changes pretty rapidly. Two years from now will almost certainly be a completely different landscape for part purchasing.

If you were looking for something to get started in the meantime, what would your budget be? Do you know what you will be using (ie Tensorflow)?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any reason to get an x570 over a b450 for 3700X?"

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

Even a budget board like the X570 Asus Prime P has better VRMs, but we aren't talking an overclocked 3900x here. There will be no current performance difference between the boards.

You could go as low as the B450 Tomahawk Max, which also would have support out of the box guaranteed. No built in Wifi though.

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