Nope! Other than perhaps the motherboard since it was originally thought of as an overclocking build, but even then, just having a higher quality motherboard in there helps me in particular since I have a couple other m-ITX builds that I can switch out with this board if I decide to rebuild.
Besides that little hiccup, this guy still runs through most games and is an awesome portable LAN/HTPC/gaming on the go rig.
I haven't tried, but it'd be a big maybe. Depends on the styling on the cooler and where it lines up with the fan placement. There's very little room but it's worth a try.
I originally had a 7700k in the mobo with an AIO that was marketed as being compatible with the case. In my experience, it wasn't. Not without some heavy modding at least, which I didn't want to do. Temps weren't to my liking at all with the couple miniature air coolers I tried in the case; so I stepped it down to the 7700 and kept the mobo.
What are all these pictures of this random PC? You title it "My Monster" and only show one pic of the raving mad tiger. This is disappointing.
Holy schnikes, that is a beautiful rig. Great tubing in an interesting case.
But most importantly...
Long live The Akatsuki and Sasori-sama!!
This needs some attention because this is an awesome mod to make a case that was absolutely horrible in function to be a lot better.
Really great mod and one that looks good and makes it viable. I used this case for a total of two weeks in my main gaming build before scraping it and using it basically as a place to keep my older parts as a spare rig. It looks so great and works so....well it doesn't work; at all. Truly a suffocating case.
Awesome stuff. Big thumbs up.
Eh, I don't see a closed side panel. = P
But really, if you have to mod the heck out of the chassis to get it to work, it's kind of ridiculous. It's impressive if he got it to work though. Just disappointing to see it marketed like it's cake and clearly it's something that would take a whole lot of time and effort to get done right. If "right" at all. Thanks for the pics though!
Naruto is nostalgic for me, it's good stuff. Nice! Good luck with breaking into the community! Persistence is key, so I hear.
Awesome stuff. I accidentally built every build after my first, so I know the feeling. Nice set up as well and it looks like you've used what space you have pretty darn well! (Looks like a streamer set up too?) Not much else to say other than LONG LIVE THE UCHIHA CLAN.
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Yeah, it's not hugely different to the 02 in the larger scheme of things. Certainly not enough to up and rebuild the rig because of it, but if you want to stick to SFF and upgrade some things in the future, a few of the reasons why I prefer the 03 over the 02 are good reasons for an actual upgrade outside of the chassis in the future:
It's got an extra drive bay! That sounds like a small thing but when you're running with a small rig as is, that extra few TB or whatever it may be can be a huge help.
The GPU bracket is loads better placed and the bracket itself is reinforced (there's actually two, which helps a whole lot more than it may sound, ten fold). Insanely helpful with those larger GPUs and there were actually a couple times in which my GPU came just sliiiiightly detached from the riser in my 02. After hauling this thing around tens and tens of times in my car to and fro, not a single thing has gone wrong.
And the absolutely most massive plus...
So that's about it! Three changes that drastically changed the rig entirely for me. An extra amount of space, peace of mind in the safety of my GPU/riser and some seriously helped thermals. I'd say that while it's a slightly larger case, the pro's far outweigh that bulkier design. Again, not a "I need to upgrade this right now" type of thing, but one of those deals where once you do find a reason to do an upgrade, or see some not so great thermals, you really can't go back.
I don't typically run synthetic tests outside of stability testing upon initial booting because it usually doesn't do me any good given that I mainly game. I ran GTAV, Shadow of War, and Evil Within 2 annnnd...I can't remember which game those percents were on, but it was probably GTAV.
Like I said though, it's a backup rig so I'm not going to be gaming on it. At all. Unless my three other systems break somehow.
Yep. 40-60% load with CPU at 90% hahaha. Wowee. Yeah I kind of expected that but it's still squeezing the life out of it-bad.
Kyle's video was one of the tens I watched to see some tips actually. That might work, but the issue there is that the tubing is going to be extremely difficult to get right. The way it is set up, the tubing, no matter what kind of GPU you have, is going to be pushing up against the GPU hard no matter what (since the radiator can only mount on the right side, where the GPU will be directly on top of). If you can find a small enough radiator that also has decently long (but not too long) tubing that is also very flexible, it can work.
The other comment in here with the Corsair H75 (or Silverstone's own recommended slim AIO; one I obviously don't directly recommend, but it is sadly one of the slimmest AIO, just be as patient as a saint when you try to work with the tubing) is probably your best bet, but you will no doubt have to maim some of its effectiveness by putting on a slim fan and taking away the dual-fans (and those types of fans). If you mount it with the tubes facing down, it'll interfere with the GPU, and if you try to face them upwards, you run out of tubing length (at least with the two kinds of AIOs I tried).
The issue here isn't getting it to work in some crazy way. You can certainly find a scenario in which everything is fit just right and is crushed just the right amount that it's not too horribly devastating, but the second you have to change something or move something or open the case up...all bets are off.
I literally have done zero kind of testing on this thing since it was built, it might've been turned on once more after the initial boot haha. But I'm sure it does! I'll see just how much and get back to you in the next couple days if you're interested. Just got an SSD I wanna put in so it'll give me an excuse to work with it more.
Thanks! And wow! Props. That's the only way I got mine to fit as well was downgrading the fan to a slim, which at that point felt like basically having an amped up air cooler on there temp-wise.
Great to hear that temps are good with an open-air GPU! I might have to play around with that in the future. The only 1080 I have is in my "home rig" and is a Zotac Mini so I might have some fun with playing with that in this one since I seem to use it more often these days.
I've heard this a couple different times and I'm not sure why because I noticed an immediate difference in loading up some of my games. Granted, I'm not entirely sure how the flash memory is stored and if it's only a certain capacity, in which case that'd make sense since I've only got a couple games on each drive as of now. But the moment I loaded Prey, a game with a whole heck of a lot of loading screens onto it, it was noticeably quicker. It wasn't jaw dropping or anything, but enough to notice it right off the bat.
Then again that's all I use it for, I don't do many big file transfers or rendering or anything like that.
He's referring to the fact that it's blowing hot air down towards your GPU. In an entirely open air chassis like this, it's probably not going to affect thermals too horribly for your GPU, but you might see some jumps in temps whilst gaming on CPU heavy games; all that heat is going to be fed in/around your GPU.
Usually the fan is situated so that it pushes the air into the heatsink and towards the back of the mobo (towards the back I/O). So basically rotate your cooler clockwise and you'd be good to go. I'd be interested in seeing if there is any huge difference. I can't imagine it'd be, but if this were in a closed chassis, that set up would be pretty detrimental to your overall performance. (Not to be overly dramatic, I don't think it'd kill it but if you're a heavy gamer it's certainly not going to do you any favors)
A very random Ebay flash sale. I was browsing "dealsource.tech" and saw a 1080 deal, then under the "recommended/like this one" category I saw this sale, which wasn't the one listed on dealsource (the irony). It was up for a couple hours and was gone, rightfully so.
My pleasure! Information on this site is always number one.
Funny you posted this question, I just replaced it with the Corsair Hydro H60 because I wasn't satisfied with the Cooler Master's temps. Temps dropped a good 15 degrees. Same thermal paste (Arctic Silver), same application, same chassis and position of the radiator. I tried the AIO on a different Ryzen (a 3 instead of a 5) and got the same mediocre temps.
So I'd recommend that over the Cooler Master if you haven't bought it already. It's sufficient, but if I'm going to liquid cool it (even if it's just an AIO), I want some great temps. I was getting around 40-ish at idle with the CM (keep in mind I run a 24/7 OC of 3.9 Ghz at 1.35 volts) and now I'm getting 20-ish with the Corsair, which is about what I expect with an AIO and that voltage, even if the Ryzen series does run a little hot.
Not really "resolve", but it'd be a fine set up. The included 200mm fan is truly a horrible fan. The fan itself isn't the best quality, but to compound the issue, it's really important to have static pressure fans at the front of this case because of how minuscule the amount of breathing room they have is and the included fan is a weak air flow fan. Really, sticking your hand into the chassis while the fan is running feels like someone is lightly blowing on your hand; the air flow is that bad.
I'm pretty certain the case was made with the specific purpose of liquid cooling in mind. Having two SP fans at the front helps a lot.
The CPU cooler and rad are quiet enough, and there were zero issues with clearance of RAM and CPU cooler. But the chassis itself is pretty loud, I'm actually about to do a total overhaul and change the chassis out because of air flow issues and the fact that the two front intake fans do get pretty loud while simultaneously doing not all that much because of how little intake they get thanks to the front panel being so closed off. It's a great chassis to look at but for function...it isn't so great.
Thanks! This is my first experience with an ASrock board and it's pretty great; the UEFI isn't the fanciest but it's nothing to scoff at and it does have some nice features for overclocking both the RAM and CPU. Similarly, the WIFI isn't anything special but it'll get the job done. I don't use WIFI primarily, but the few moments that I do have to use it, it only had marginally worse speeds than my PCI-e wirless card that I have in another system, so that says something.
As for the GPU, I actually need to update this because I recently got the ASUS GTX 1070 Turbo, a blower style card. That said, the 1060 did fantastic in the case and there's plenty of ventilation even though it looks like it's suffocating. The entire bottom there is basically all ventilation as well so there's more than just the small gap between the bottom and the GPU. If you have a good intake fan at the front, you're golden.
The 1060 got to the mid 70's but that isn't bad at all considering the load applied. The fan that the case comes with as front intake is sufficient but it's basically just a huge soft breeze compared to the nicer end fans you can get that are smaller; and being able to have two makes a big difference., Having one of them as static pressure and the other as air flow is extremely helpful considering the dust filter on the front as well as the not so fantastic airflow from the front cover.
This is way too many kinds of awesome to describe!
Yummy name, yummy look. Good stuff all around! I like the more simplistic and straightforward look just as much as the lit-up RGB look (provided it's not overboard, which can just outright kill my enthusiasm).
Thank you! Yeah, if you could make it work, a new AMD Hackintosh would be incredible. I've been thinking of doing one myself eventually, it can definitely be a little daunting with the current PC component economy though.
Nope! Haha I'll be blunt, I really wanted to build this thing and this was the only one in stock at the time (and even then after I got mine, it was out of stock mere minutes later, though I'm pretty sure they're somewhat easier to find). I searched and cannot find any differences between the boards and it looks like its more or less a cash grab.
Don't quote me on that because I may have missed something but if you go to their official website and compare them, they are...exactly the same. Like literally exactly the same, right down to their bullet points on what the board features are, if you go back and forth between the pages, they look the same except the X370 has shots of the wifi extender. That's it.
So I'd recommend the b350 without a doubt if it's in stock.
Yeah, I've been playing the game for quite some time now; thank you for the heads up though! It's gotten some great updates but it definitely takes some tweaking to make it a little less janky. Still very fun!
Nope! It's running perfectly fine. I was worried about that too at first but apparently you just need a small gap for cold air to get into, and with the fans from the front of the case constantly supplying it with fresh air, it's good to go. The grated cage for the PSU also helps tremendously, I'm sure. Granted, of course it isn't going to run quite as cool as a GPU that's sitting inside a huge ATK chassis with tons of fans, but I'll say that every game I've been playing, I've been pushing the GPU as much as I can and it hasn't gotten above 72, which is more than acceptable! Quite happy with it.
Yep! I play a few emulators and dabble in some Origin, Uplay and Blizzard games but the majority is through Steam.
I never thought I'd say this.
But you've made Hello Kitty look sexy.
There, I said it.
It will never be said again. Unless you do an M-ITX version. This is fantastic. Also great husband is great. To say the least.
Oh boy, too many to name!
Right now I'm addicted to Prey. I also play a lot of XCOM2. Still playing Skyrim now and again. I also play some Metroidvania games like Hollow Knight and Dead Cells. Now and again I'll dive into Subnautica (that pun totally wasn't intended...wow) and The Solus Project. Still playing Metal Gear Solid V....
Yes. Too many. There's more. But I gotta get back to "Insert Game Name Here".
Haha thank you.
I actually haven't done synthetic tests since for me personally they are mostly useless with the explicit exception of testing a brand new rig for stability. I have tested it with gaming though, and that's really, in my opinion, the best way to test (barring productivity tests like rendering/multiple CPU intensive programs, etc).
While gaming on High settings in GTAV, CPU package got up to exactly 80 and stayed. Prey on nearly Maximum settings with the exception of the light ray settings (I forget their actual name) set to medium, it got up to 72. And for other random games like Skyrim (Maximum) and Dying Light (Maximum) it stayed at a cool 65-68.
It's going to be on the hot side no matter what, I think. I've looked at more than a few rigs that are either identical or extremely similar and all of them have temps that are pretty similar. I think sine-wave's comment could help a bit though.
Ahh yes, great tip! Thanks! Will definitely try that out.
Yep, it's got an ASUS Dual(fan) 1060.
Very nice! I literally just built a similar build (haven't uploaded it yet) in the same case. Although mine has an i7-4770 and a GTX 1060 6GB.
How are your temps holding up?
I'm also using the NH-L9i. Being my fourth build I was pretty confident in the cable management and parts quality but got a little antsy when CPU temps reached the upper-70's/low-80's at points of long and high end gaming. But comparing a bunch of other builds like this that aren't crazily modded to water cool (obviously not in this case but very similar ones), they all have pretty much the same temps barring a few degrees here and there.
Great build and congrats on the first, and an SFF at that! Took me a few before even considering trying a portable build.
Always great to hear of donated parts for the sake of a fellow friend. Great looking build. I still have my main rig in an S340 and yeah, they're amazing to build in. Really builder friendly.
No problem! Yeah a 1070 will still last you a good while, it'll be a bit before we see games starting to really utilize it's architecture to the fullest. Even a few years, you'll be good unless you just have to have all of your games maxed out. AAA GPU hog titles aside, it's a safe bet to say you'll be good to go with maxing out games for the next couple years if you're under the 2k mark (even then it'd be pretty safe).
I game on a TV now and again too and especially in that case, it's far and away the best option for both performance and price. And yeah, upgrading down the line when the GPU cost has gone down a good bit is always smart.
I was in a similar situation with my 970 SC doing me just fine, but having the money to upgrade, pondered going with the 1080 or the 1070 (this was when the TI was just a thought for the future). In my eyes, unless you're going to be gaming on an extremely nice monitor and want maximum everything at 2K, or want to game moderately at 4K, there is no reason to go with a 1080 at anything less than that, especially if it's not a 144hz monitor.
I've got a 1070, and game at 2K once in a while but mainly stick with my 1920x1080 144hz perfection and am more than content. Down the line if I upgrade to a nicer monitor then I'll upgrade to a 1080 but unless you just find an insanely good sale going on (which is absolutely possible since there is one every few days), anything less than 2K/4K gaming is just gravy for a 1080 and it won't be utilized in the least. It'd be like buying a sports car and never taking it above 40 MPH. Future-proofing aside, a 1070 will do you more than fine if you're sticking with the monitor you have listed (even then it'd blow it out of the water and you could use the rest of the money you'd save on a 1070 to upgrade that monitor to a 144hz).
As for the 1080ti...I wouldn't even consider it unless you're absolutely going to get a 4K monitor in the near future. Even a 1080 would be overkill right now, the TI would just be throwing money away. Again, setting aside future-proofing ideas. That whole "well it's future-proofing!" shtick only goes so far... If you're planning on it, then absolutely. If not, your money would be much better spent elsewhere and then down the line when prices drop drastically on monitors (and eventually the 1080ti), you can make that jump for a lot less money.
Hope this helps! Great rig and set up, purdy stuff.
They're nothing special, it's just a nice Teal color. The kit itself is called Tingkam, but it's just another off-brand LED kit, I'm sure you could get something much better for a slightly higher price. For the price, I haven't had many bad kits from them except for one which is fairly dull and not too bright (as well as having a few colors that are off from the programmed remote corresponding color), but again you could do better.
It is indeed a pretty color though, and it's nothing special, any good full-RGB kit will have a full Teal color like that.
1 cpu fan and 1 system fan. Definitely get a splitter or a multi hub if you want extra cooling for a small chassis.
Firstly, long live the Uchiha clan. Second, really nice build! Yummy parts list.
Valid, maybe... But it's kind of like complaining about a coat of paint after it's already dried... The RAM is bought and installed so... Perhaps recommending a better and still cheap RAM would be more appropriate.
All in all it's not a system breaker and is probably the absolute easiest thing to upgrade.
Great stuff. Ignore the ogres and trolls, some people love to post harsh judgements even when its unwarranted and useless.
Always great to hear stories about people doing good deeds, even better when it's with their PC building skill set.
Also extra imaginary +1 for Eeyore and Thomas. Those dudes ruled my childhood.
Thanks! This one was my first MITX build and I wanted to make it as cable managed as possible, which was pretty dang tough. It took me about 3 hours or so but I should note that I take my time and am much slower than most builders even now that I'm on my fourth build and am very comfortable with parts in general and building. A lot of people seem to boast about building fast or how fast they build it and that's great and all but taking your time ensures no issues or having to backtrack.
But you could easily build this in an hour or less even as a newcomer if you were so inclined. It's not too much work outside of cable management and routing, making things look aesthetically pleasing, which is by far and away the most difficult part.
Eh? It shows up for me.. Weird. The total is $1,185. But the CPU, MOBO and GPU were bought already, so even though I obviously bought them at some point, they had been sitting around for a good while (3-4 years to be exact, except for the GPU which was being used in my main rig for a few months).
Thank ya! I really love their cases and might even change my main PC into a Phanteks case at some point. They're a fantastic balance of maintenance and aesthetics.