Would love to know what you do for a living to be able to afford all this!?
+1 AND YOU'RE FEATURED!
This is really similar to what I would like to build. It's really great to see these shift builds and all the comments to see the problems people are running into.
Nice build for the price! +1
The stock cooler that comes with the CPU already has thermal paste applied - so no need to buy any extra!
1) no problem :).
2) no problem!
3) cool :).
4) no worries!
5) okay good!
6) you're welcome!
+1. Looks so nice. Especially how you've matched the colours of the RGB components to your wallpaper!
It's a little bit of a shame that the green on the speakers doesn't quite match... could you paint them the aqua/turquoise or orange colour?
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1) Unless you're going to start seriously overclocking then get the 1600 over the 1600X as the X version only offers slight performance improvements at high overclocks.
2) The stock cooler of the 1600 is actually very good, so you can save a few monies there.
3) Better SSD for the money - you could also get the Hynix SSD which is a little more expensive but better again.
4) Do you already have the PSU? There is no price for it on pcpp so it's not counted in your total. If not then will need a PSU also.
5) Do you have a HDD? You may need more storage than the 256GB the SSD gives you!
6) You can't actually get that GTX 1070 for the amount shown - Here's a better 1070 anyways that is still sensible price.
+1. Best looking Shift build I've seen yet!
Any update on the riser cable issue with the 1080? I am thinking of getting the same case with a 1070.
Also, how is the performance with the X62? Is there a major reason why you are planning to get a H55 to cool?
+1! Your whole setup looks so clean!
I would loved to have seen some pics of the inside of the case and all the components and also any info on waht temps/performance is like if possible?
Nothing majorly wrong with this build. You could get 8GB of RAM and upgrade at a later date. 8GB would still probably be enough to play most games (presuming this is your main reason for building the PC).
To be honest though, your list is going to definitely change come April '18. CoffeeLake CPU's from Intel are just around the corner and who knows if there will be any future releases before April next year!
+1 for Deftones!
Also, nice build - good colour scheme with the white heatsinks on the motherboard.
Wow, I had no idea they weren't profitable at present!
Also had no idea nVidia had all of those partners! :O
It will be interesting to see if there is any social effect too. People buying AMD as they know that's what Tesla uses. Sounds basic and stupid but I feel this is sometimes the way the average consumer thinks!
thanks for highlighting this!
Please seen @Porkyville's comment below - you may actually have to buy a cooler for the 1700X.
This looks a good build for your needs then. I've added an SSD.
The main change is for Ryzen 7 1700x though. This will keep up in games fine and the extra cores will give you better performance when streaming/editing youtube videos. It also comes with a good stock cooler so you don't necessarily have to buy one.
Also, when buying a motherboard I highly recommend at looking at the specs for one that suits your needs. You can overspend just for the 'best' when a cheaper one might suit you find. Likewise you can buy a cheap one but it not have all the features you like.
Fair comment. OP should get the M9I instead!
Actually that's not a bad price, although if building yourself you could get a better motherboard and better cooler for the CPU for the same price!
Here's a quick part list I came up with that would be better in terms of the above:
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Two more things:
1) what is your use for this rig? If it is simply gaming then the i7 could be considered a little overkill and you could save money but going with an i5 7600k instead.
2) neither the pre-built you posted or the part list I made have an SSD - something you may want to consider?
The trouble with planet coaster is that it is very CPU intensive - once you get a lot of items in a park it needs a lot of computing power. You'll be able to buy something that will run the game fine for fairly cheap, but then once you load a detailed park the fps will drop significantly.
See this thread dedicated for people asking similar questions:
I'd suggest a build with a 1050Ti or better (although you may be able to get away with something a little weaker for a GPU if playing on low settings) and a mid range processor, preferably with a few more cores than 4. Once you have a build you could post on that thread and see what people think!
Nothing wrong with this build! You could squeeze out more performance from your CPU if you got a better cooler.
What monitor do you have at the moment? With a 1080 you could definitely go with 1440p!
I see, well I don't think I would get serious enough into oc'ing to get the i5 running that fast, so Ryzen is still probably better.
Also, I don't know, but i'm guessing the differences we are talking here would be minimal anyways, so nothing to stress about :).
I will definitely at least try oc'ing them! Hopefully it goes well!
Of course it does! If I am comparing to the i5 7600k? I can't imagine I will get into overvcloxking seriously but enough to twiddle a little with the settings.
Thanks for getting back to me!
Modules are Crucial Ballistix Sport LT.not sure of the model number as I am at work at present.
But what you are basically conlcuding, is that even though they are quite low frequency, Ryzen will still workout better than Intel performance wise?
Here's what I would consider:
Saving nearly £200. Cheaper SSD, you probably wouldn't notice performance difference. Excellent performing cooler. Won't quite be as good as the water cooler you had previously but unless your son is going to get really serious about overclocking won't matter. I also went ahead and chose a slightly cheaper video card (I do notice you have a red theme so appreciate if you want to stick to the MSI card.
I second this, along with the shift X.
And also the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Tempered Glass edition. Seems pcpp is lagging behind on adding the phanteks cases!
What resolution will he be playing at? If 1080p then it all looks good!
My main comment would be that there are certain parts, like the CPU cooler, case and SSD that you have spent quite a lot on. You could save some money with similar items that will still do a very good job.
It's pretty hard to say when we have such little information on the 8600k. However, for editing it is probably going to be the case that the AMD CPU will be better for editing, as it has more cores and threads. Having said that, the 8600k is likely to be faster for gaming and other things.
I think there won't be enough difference for you to notice a huge amount. If you're willing to wait for the 8600k then wait and see. Otherwise the AMD 1600 is a good choice right now.
No, I mean to say that I don't know which is better in your case - to go with Intel or AMD. :)
Other than settling for a cheaper case, the only thing I can see to save money is to choose a cheaper SSD. Yes the Samsung's are faster than other SSD's but you can get a different manufacturer's that might not be quite as fast but costs a lot less and performs admirably. You have to ask yourself if you think you'll notice the difference in speed between a Samsung SSD and a different one (especially if you haven't had an SSD or haven't had a Samsun one in the past).
I'm not sure about if Intel vs AMD in your case, however if you were to go for AMD you could save a few moneys by using the cooler than comes with the 1600 CPU. It is more than capable especially if you're not going to OC or only do minor OC'ing.
If you could show me where you can find it for that price that would be great. But I can't seem to find it for any lower than £290! It is the black edition.
haha, yeah thought so! But yeah its a good price in the UK I feel! Thanks!
It is listed on ebay currently but not for international postage. I could change that though. I would like £280 for it which I think is around $340/350. I haven't looked what the price is for them in the US but Im kind of guessing that isn't a very competitive price for you?
I may consider posting elsewhere if you're willing to pay for postage on top to where your location is?
Nice build! I like how you've kept a simple colour scheme!
Just a quick question since that is the same motherboard I am planning to buy. Is the patterned strip down the right hand side of the motherboard removable? or is it fixed. I like the LED's but in my opinion the pattern that the LED's shine through is kind of naf!
Hmmm thank you for the info very useful!
I think the crucial will do the job. I mean it's not the best but it's £30 saved which I could put towards a better ssd or something else and in reality I don't think I will notice the difference in performance really.
I went ahead and deleted the ones I am no longer considering. Should have done it sooner anyways!
So either the FIRST BUILD Katy lake OR FIRST BUILD overclocked.
To be honest they're quite similar builds I'm just watching prices!
Managed to knock around $200 off. And got you the i5 6500 instead of the 6400! You were spending quite a lot on a motherboard and case. I changed these for the below. The case is still corsair and the motherboard is excellent for the price with USB 3.1, excellent audio codec etc. I also changed the monitor for a similar one with similar specs but cost less.
Other ideas to save even more money would be to ditch the CPU cooler as you could just use the stock that comes with the CPU. You could also save some money but changing the GPU - I know the MSI is a very good version of the 1060 but it is quite expensive still!
Also, you could save more money but getting a more budget friendly keyboard/headset for now and then just upgrade in the future... just a thought!
Thanks for replying!
Came here to post this... Quite frustrating!
Weird how the prices all contain (+) after. And who knows where they are getting the values from since when you click through to the notatech website those values are no where to be found!
There's plenty of more examples for RAM.
AWESOME for a first build! You're the first person to build using that cooler and make me think it actually looks pretty good!
OMG though, where did you find a 6600k for £175!?
If you're still looking for a monitor around $200 here's a great 1080p monitor and its 144Hz:
Yes the GPU looks good to me... Not too expensive compared to other 1070's and it will perform well. See this article comparing stats on the cards http://thepcenthusiast.com/geforce-gtx-1070-compared-asus-evga-zotac-msi-gigabyte/ however, bare in mind that actual performance can vary and there's probably not much difference in performance in a lot of them. Gave a Google of 'video card lottery' and you'll understand a little more about the variance of GPU performance.
The cooler you have is an excellent cooker for the price and should do fine in your build! It should allow you to overclock fairly well and is a good choice. I don't think you'll get better performance for a similar price tbh. Aio coolers tend to be a little more expensive and probably won't fit in your budget (although if you have found one that will please correct me). The temp shouldn't be too much of a problem but if you are concerned that can be helped with some extra case fans to improve air flow.
I don't think the elite case is that bad for airflow or that compact. But maybe you should look up reviews of the case or ask elsewhere as I'm not really familiar with this case nor do I know a lot about airflow/cooling for specific cases tbh.
No worries dude! That's what you came to PCPP for and I'm happy to help! :) make sure you try and give back to the community with the knowledge you have from your build in the future!
Well... With your budget I would suggest a 240GB yes. It's only an extra $20 or so and as I said, having the programmes you use for editing video etc will help to speed up the render times! I mean if you think you are only going to have a few programmes to put on the ssd then 120GB may be enough but you should look into how many programmes you think you'll have for potential ssd installation and work it out.
Well ofc an unlocked cup will run at base speed if not overclocked, so buying the k version would not be a disadvantage (except price). With an i7 however, it is not really going to give you better performance in games, since there aren't really any games that require more processing power than the base speed of an i7. Editing and other programmes however will benefit from the extra speed.
If I was going for an OC build, going for what you have already is fine except I would go for the Adata 240GB ssd. As I said in my first post the build you have is pretty solid for your budget.
Here's what I would do for a non OC build:
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Save money on the motherboard too since you don't need a z170 chipset! Then I would just save the remaining $100 and spend it on peripherals/super nice monitor/second monitor or even for something else in life!
Forgot to say - welcome to PCPP and the PC master race! :)
In regards to storage:
120GB is fine just for OS and just a few other essential programmes if you are happy with that. Personally I would prefer a little more storage though and given you say you will be doing a lot of media related tasks, having the programmes you do this with installed on an ssd will greatly improve render times etc. Therfore I think a larger ssd is advisable. It's fine to store your files on whatever hard drives you want and whatever organisation otherwise.
In regards to CPU/coolers:
If you're not looking to overclock then you could save another $30 and go for the locked version of the i7. And possibly even go with the stock cooler and save even MORE money by not having an aftermarket cooler! Looking at the stats, the non-k (not overclockable) version of the i7 has turbo boost up to 4.0GHz. The k version (overclockable) is 4.0GHz base but can be overclocked to a higher frequency.
Now if you are definitely not interested/not wanting to overclock I would definitely go with the non-k version as you can save money to spend on another part of your build... The difference in performance wouldn't be that much if you're not going to seriously overclock and squeeze the CPU as much as possible. Plus you could still get an aftermarket cooler which would keep the CPU cool and help longevity, efficiency and mean you wouldn't have to use the ugly stock cooler haha.
If you do want to overclock then the cooler you had is fine. There are better coolers out there but you have to pay more. There are coolers a similar price which probably perform a little better, but let's decide if you want to overclock and which CPU you're going for first!
In regards to momitors:
Let's address the above two components first and we can discuss monitors. This comment is already pretty long haha!
No problemo :)
With this build you should have no problem with a 550W PSU rather than 650W. Obviously it doesn't allow a lot of room for expansion, but it does allow you to save $20 which you could spend elsewhere.
I've swapped your PSU (Good choice on the G2 btw!) with the same model at 550W. I've spent the money saved on this to get a larger capacity SSD at 240GB. You could spend the 20$ elsewhere, however at 120GB the SSD only really has enough room for the OS and a couple of programmes/games.
Nothing much wrong with this build.
I would suggest getting a larger SSD however, since 120GB is only really enough for the OS and a few programmes/games. For around $20 more you can get and A-Data SSD with 240GB of space. Only just over your $1200 budget. Plus, if buying on Black Friday/Cyber Monday then I'm sure you'll save a little too!
If you were willing to spend more then I would probably go for a better CPU cooler. The one you have is good but if you're serious about overclocking then it's probably not going to push any boundaries.
What resolution monitor are you looking to get? and what is your budget?
No worries. You're not the first person in this Topic to advise me of an MSI board that doesn't have USB 3.1!
Good shout. Had somehow missed this cooler by Cryorig! Thanks!