Thanks, I got it working yesterday after a lot of Youtube and articles. Turns out I just had to reset CMOS and it booted right up. :)
The RAM I went with is this: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory.
Hey guys, I got it!!!
The MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon didn't come with a CMOS jumper, but after watching some videos I found one where the person explained - Use a srcrew driver to short the CMOS reset.
After removing the battery and doing this, it booted right up.
Now that it boots up & I got Windows installed... I am learning the motherboard does not have WiFi and I'm unable to get to the store until tomorrow to get a WiFi network adapter.... Gah
And because the girlfriend just started a work from home job she has the only Ethernet cable in the house. My luck...lol
I tried both. I read it may be a driver issue, any experience on this?
I was only able to find a HDMI to DVI adapter at the locally, which still didn't change anything. I would have to drive 30 miles to the closest Best Buy to get a DVI cable.
Thanks for the link, #1 was actually one I was looking at, but out of budget. #3, the 'Couger' is just strange. The last one reminded me of a claw machine.
Yeah, sadly off just slightly! Found someone that had an am3 (maybe am2) board laying around and tried it.
I just got with the 3rd party seller and will be shipping this mobo back for a refund and have ordered a new one through Newegg that should be here Wednesday. Then, try try again... lol
So much for waiting to order parts at the same time... blah.
I am just learning so I don't know which ones to look at, but was building on a budget and already went over a bit.
Would am3 backplates work with in? I'm finding those all over when I searched google shopping, but not am4.
I'm sitting here waiting on FedEx waiting on the last two packages of parts to come in, it's like Christmas early - I just hope nothing arrives broke, as this has been one of those 'nothing seems to go right weeks'.
It will also be my first build, and like you I've been browsing for inspiration. Anyway, just wanted to comment as this looks very cool. :)
Working on my first build, your comment makes me want to cry at the current prices. Lol, i may still shed a tear as i hit the order button. _^
What if the list shows the same ram as a 32gb set (4x8gb), but not 16gb (2x8gb)?
I am interested in the x370 gaming pro carbon and 16gb trident z rgb, but the list only shows 32gb trident z rgb. :/
I did some more research on it and found cable management may not be that good, while others said it was great.
If I did go with that one, I might take you up on that if I'm unable to upgrade the case soon. :)
That was the only one that caught my attention, but looking at reviews it seems the window is easily scratched since it's plastic.
Around what price point does glass windows start? I found this one currently on sale for $25 that seems it would fit my build, but it's black...
Any opinions on this one?
I'm thinking, if a plastic window is going to scratch up easily anyways, may as well go cheap as possible, then save up for a better selection of white cases with tempered glass.
Thanks, I noticed white seems to be much harder to find a selection for compared to black.
I found one in white I liked, but then I looked it up on here and it was $179... Blah.
Friend had already ordered the SSD and CPU, but I'm still interested in the RAM. If you take Paypal PM me with the info.
If the ram is still available, can you link me to the product to verify it's the one I am looking at?
On the others, friend already ordered the CPU and SSD.
What about the SSD with windows?
Which one has Windows 10 and how much? May be interested in that.
Throw out a price on these following, may know someone interested in them:
CPU- AMD Ryzen 5 1600 MOBO
RAM- 16 GB G.SKIll Trident Z CL16 3200 Mhz (2x8)
The rate of price changes are insane... I finally found a case late last night (2am), and decided to wait until today to do my ordering. Within the last 7-8 hrs the Mobo went up $22 and the memory went up almost $30!
Well, I guess I will hold off on ordering this morning and see if those prices drop again later (like yesterday). The RAM and MOBO seem to be the only 2 parts that change though, is there a reason for that?
Below is a link to the case I'm thinking of starting with, in case you or anyone has thoughts or experience with it:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F28H99/nzxt-ca-s340w-w2-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-w2 - $88
The one I liked better, turned out to be a $160 case and well out of budget at the moment. _^
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7HkD4D/nzxt-case-cah440ww1 - $160
Just went to compare your updated memory and... they updated the price back to $134.99... They can't make up their mind.
Now I am between working and researching cases. :P
~sits with empty stare, then bangs head on desk~That figures... 0.o
Hmm, the RAM is shows $134.99 on your list above, but when I open the page it shows the same as my list ($159.99). :/
Yeah, around that or I'll be sleeping outside for a while to get away from the g/f complaining. Haha... Blah
Hmm, that works too and I still have room to research a case. Below is the one I originally had picked out:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3MPfrH/deepcool-case-tesseractsw - $35
I think I should be able to find more options by increasing the price to $60 or so on the case. :)
I added it to the new build. Let me know what you think of this setup:
I was able to save on a cooler with the Ryzen 5 1600. I also decided to go with a 250GB SSD for now (add another SSD or HDD later). The build is about 30watts less, so instead of a 650w I put a 600w PSU.
This saved enough $ to up the RAM to 16GB, and give a little more budget on the case.
Any tip on a case? Below is what I'm looking for. :P
I am tossed between doing black or white, but would like something with a transparent side/window to see in. If it has lights, I prefer blue or changeable lighting options.
The programs are listed earlier in the thread. Includes some video/editing, sometimes I mess around with Unity, etc.
I seen it and first thing I thought of was a wall full of like a dozen or so split screens running simutainously or something. _^
So, Ryzen is cming out with an update next year that 'should' be compatible with current mobo's? That is a plus in going Ryzen over Intel at the moment. But, I am leaning with the Ryzen 5 1600 now for a couple reasons:
Trying to keep the mobo under $120 to make up the CPU price difference, there was only 3 ATX boards showing. One just looked like a cluttered mess, the others had a red theme (not big on red).
What are your opinions on these, how future proof do you think they are?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CczZxr/asrock-fatal1ty-ab350-gaming-k4-atx-quad-cpu-am4-motherboard-fatal1ty-ab350-gaming-k4 - $81 (red theme)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y4kwrH/msi-b350-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk - $87 (but looks like a red theme)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBH48d/msi-x370-gaming-pro-carbon-atx-am4-motherboard-x370-gaming-pro-carbon - $117
Playing around on UserBenchmark I came across the Ryzen TR 1950x (16 cores, 32 threads). 0.o talk about overkill much?
Then, I got curious what MOBO they would be compatible with on here, besides being expensive it says up to 128GB of RAM and 8 RAM slots...
What could possibly require that much? I've heard 16GB is still overkill 90% of the time.
I have yet to decide on a monitor for the starter build (depends on what I can afford after the build). But, worst case I'll have something to ask for in December as my birthday is the 29th (Xmas and Bday combo request, lol).
Hmm, that means even if I go with SLI mobo now it would still be an $800-$1,000 investment (two 1080 ti, might as well go all out in our dreams, right?). It don't look that cool ATM...
Off to research. :) Probably be back with questions. Haha
Makes sense, kind of like a low end sports car will get you there quicker than a bicycle, but an exotic sports car adds a nicer touch. _^. Thanks.
Thanks. I have to get some work done, but looks like I'll be doing a deeper Intel vs Ryzen research later today. I will probably dish a little extra for a 300-series motherboard to avoid needing to replace the entire component later on.
I've been on this laptop 5 years, and new it was time for a change when I went to update Flash and it said 'not compatible'. What the... lol
Right now, I'm lucky to get 15-20 fps in a 2D MMORPG called Tibia, so a turtle pushing with its tail is probably faster. I probably wouldn't know which way to take off at 60FPS, but I've heard of people getting 120+ FPS. It just seems like if a game ran smooth at 60FPS it would be hard to tell a change with a higher frame rate?
So, my next question is - Is there really a noticeable difference between 60FPS and 120FPS?
As SLi goes, it seems like a future proof feature more than anything (and looks cool). As I am thinking of starting with the cheaper GTX 1060, if I went with a SLI mobo would adding another 1060 later be close to the expensive 1080ti (as it's like 2-3time the cost ATM)?
Going to apologize now, it's late and I'm half awake so I hope I make sense. _^
Thanks, got a few more thoughts and questions (if you don't mind).
Why do you recommend the Ryzen over Intel?
I have yet to do much research on them as I've always heard Intel was best. I'm open to learning though.
After doing some research on motherboards earlier, I was leaning towards the Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, as it's around the price point of the Asus Z270-e gaming motherboard I had picked out. Any thought on that one?
Between Asus, MSI, and ASRock, which is a better brand and why?
Basically, I am wanting to start out with a lower budget build that runs what I need/want (below), but have the ability for serious upgrade over time, for example https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ghanes14/saved/BXmr7P
Below are some ideas of what I open on a regular basis, any suggestions that keep the build costs low as possible for now, with the potential to upgrade like the link above in the future?
I do content creation, web design, photo editing, and website management, the following are things I commonly have open at any given time:
Microsoft Word - anywhere from 1 - 10 document at a time, if not more.
Microsoft Excel - 2 to 5 spreadsheets
Chrome/Firefox - Depending on what I am working on I may have a couple dozen tabs open
The usual - antivirus, dropbox, etc.
As for gaming, I mainly play MMORPGs, and would like to experience playing without constant lag.
After Chills reply I got the builder to work and used it. :)
Oh! Well, I feel foolish now.
I tried removing the mobo, but it still was not showing z370 boards so I unchecked the compatibility checker and it worked. I guess that's my 1st sign that it's not compatible with other stuff (I'm hoping it's just the i5-7600k triggering it, blah).
Thanks for the quick reply!
Thanks for explaining, that I can understand. :P
I notice they were sold out in several stores after searching it up, I'm assuming they are really new...
till trying to learn the processor terms though. I seen i5-8400 (or 8600?) and i7-8700. So, is 'Coffee Lake' like an updated version of each processor 'category'?
I'm not familiar with the version names, is that i5 or i7? It would depend on the price difference as the 'starter build' is already a bit over budget.