I made them myself - although it took so bloody long that I'm not sure I would recommend it. Here's a pinout diagram I made with the cable lengths (the cables on the 24 pin vary in length so that it twists better): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQvwmUKvj8ld_DCGe0wSg8pBuVPXVNRCRLUIehmBHdY/edit?usp=sharing
I think a better option would be ordering through CableMod - apparently you can request custom lengths shorter than the minimum length by contacting their customer support after submitting your order. Might not get it quite as tidy, but much more straightforward!
Not at all. There are faster kits around, but I don't think it would make an appreciable difference in my build.
Thanks. The case isn't designed for water cooling, but this amazing build has an AIO:
The NCASE M1 is the only small form factor case I'm aware of that is specifically designed for water cooled builds. Great looking case. I've never built in one through.
I've never played around with the DC-PSU's but I gather that that HDPLEX model can draw a fair bit more than 300W. And parts seem to be getting more and more efficient. That said, I don't really feel the need to go to a smaller case than this one - especially if you'd need an external power brick.
The i5 runs relatively cool with the C7 cooler - temps during a prime95 stress test maxing out at 74C with a 29C ambient (so 45C delta). I think cooling a higher wattage CPU in this case with this cooler would be pushing it though.
The blower style GTX 1070 gets hot though - during Unigine Heaven 87C max with at 29C ambient (so 58C delta) and the fan gets noisy as a result. But it doesn't throttle.
That said these are very similar results to what I was getting in the Tt F1 case that is about double the volume and has a 200mm intake fan.
I've seen reports from other A4-SFX builders using non-blower style GPU coolers that have better temps so if I was to build this again, I'd probably get an open style GPU cooler card. And there's plenty of folks using higher wattage CPUs in this case (e.g. i7 7700k's) but they are undervolting, delidding and modding larger cooling solutions to fit in the case to keep temps reasonable.
FYI - this doc list a bunch of thermal results from different builders in this case:
Added a few pics with the custom cables that I built. Any other photo requests?
If I was going for a silent build then the NH-L9i would probably be fine at cooling my 65W i5 6500 and quieter. But the beige and brown really would have messed up my black and white theme ;)
But I reckon for an i7 the C7 is the go unless you're up for modding a larger cooler to try and get something quieter with comparable cooling to fit.
+1 Great build. Can't believe you fit it all in.
Taking it a step further I wonder if you could fit the new Zotac 1080 mini with an AIO? Maybe with a dc-dc PSU like this next to the graphics card and the AIO on the mobo side of the case?
Yeah, it's pretty noisy under load, but I don't find it that annoying. The way I have the case positioned on my desk the CPU is facing away from me - so it's actually the GPU cooler noise that I notice more.
It's very quiet at idle, and as I pretty much always game with closed headphones on (Sennheiser GSP 300) and they're very good at blocking any outside noise, it's a good solution for me.
Someone has posted up a video of the C7 running in the case here that will give you and idea of the noise at max fan speed with and without the side panel on:
I think Dan is working on a new CPU cooler project to match the case, so if that goes ahead it could be a better alternative. And I've seen reports that the Noctua NH L9i is a quieter alternative (although doesn't have as good cooling performance as the C7).
Yeah the hairworks really hits the fps. I've just got it enabled for Geralt for that sweet ponytail action ;)
I hear what you're saying - if the step up to 1440p would require a bump in CPU/GPU power to keep the frame rate smooth it might not be worth it. I'd probably go for just a 16:9 screen if I do, maybe with GSync to handle the dips more gracefully.
I'd think I'd rather spend the money on some VR gear. Although I haven't seen any VR games that really grab me yet (other than Star Citizen but it's still quite a ways off).
Yeah it's not cheap. But there's nothing else quite like it. And it's well built enough that I'll be using it for years.
Hopefully Dan can scale up production and lower the price. Or license the design to someone who can. Either that or other manufacturers will take notice of the demand and bring similar products to market.
As the TDP of gaming components drops, small form factor builds like this are possible with very few compromises.
Would love to see how a Ryzen/Vega build in this form factor compares for price/performance/thermals when they are released. Competition is a good thing!
Yeah the case does show fingerprints easily. Will give it a polish and take some more pics once the custom cables are done.