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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

I feel that you don't have a realistic grasp of what essential goods actually are.

I consider essential items to be things that are needed for food, groceries, health, and sanitation. (Amazon for instance lists baby products; health and household items; beauty and personal care; groceries; and industrial, scientific, and pet supplies as essential products.) I consider those to be more important than computer goods. It does no good to have a new laptop or monitor to work from home if you can't eat or get food or medical supplies that you need.

After Hurricane Harvey hit Houston in 2017, myself and several other PCPP employees attended a training for the Austin Disaster Relief Network to understand how we could help. I expected that we'd learn where to show up and help, but the introductory training was not that part (yet) - it was instructions on how to prepare essential supplies for home. The fundamental premise was that you can't help if you can't first take care of yourself and your family. The essential supplies coincided with what FEMA recommends for an emergency kit. You can find that list here: https://www.ready.gov/kit

That's the sort of essential goods I'm talking about. There aren't computer parts in that list, because generally speaking it's a second-order priority in comparison. I'm not saying that computer parts aren't important for people to do their jobs. I'm saying that the essential goods as I see them are more important to prioritize first, then computer parts.

For some at-risk people, delivery of essential goods is the best way to safely receive those items. They may not be able to safely visit the stores to pick up essentials. I'd like to prioritize people in that position before, say, someone who'd like a larger monitor to do their work from home. And I'd much rather prioritize people in that position right now over someone who wants a few more FPS with a new video card. (To put it in personal terms here, I think of my mom who is handicapped and too far away for me to drive over and help. And I think of a friend who now likely has COVID-19 when their only exposure to other people in the last three weeks was at the grocery store.)

There are parts that may be of a better quality at a lower price at Amazon or other retailers that people are being fooled into thinking are more expensive.

I've tried to alleviate this by showing the prices on the product page, even if we omit the buy link. That way you can still see if it is significantly cheaper, or whether the price is comparable.

IDK what your job is, maybe you can't personally relate

I'm the founder - I started PCPartPicker 10 years ago April 10th. I coded a lot of what you see and use here. I wrote this forum implementation. I wrote all the component modeling and compatibility checks. I entered the first 10,000 or so parts by hand while also working a full-time job and a newborn. I left my full-time job and the illusions of stability that it provided to focus on this site full-time. I hired employees to help. Today, I manage that team. I code for the site daily, handle all of the servers and code deployments, and I am the sole 24/7/365 on-call person any time the site goes down or has a performance issue. I oversee key retailer relationships, handle myriads of requests from users, retailers, journalists, etc. I see a lot more of what's going on than people realize - I see the pains our users are going through, but I'm also privy to what pressures the retail and shipping world is going through.

After interacting with our user base and watching the site analytics for the last 10 years, I feel like I'm in tune with the primary demographic of this site. It's primarily PC gamers and not work-from-homers. I can pull data on what parts are being viewed the most, what retailers are clicked through to, and what purchases are being made through the site. It's easy to identify what purchases are in line with working at home versus just gaming hardware. In terms of this site, I have a better picture of how it's used, by whom, and for what purpose than anyone else here.

I also know we're also not the end-all be-all site for all things PC. Seriously, the vast majority of people now working from home trying to hold onto their jobs - most don't even know this site exists. (If they did, I'd be happily retired by now!)

So I'm not naive on the bigger picture, and I can relate.

Lets make sure that stuff is squared away for the bulk of the population, and then I'll bring back the buy links. I'm not removing them forever. Just until things are in better shape. I don't know how long that'll take, but hopefully not long.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 2 days ago
  • -1 points

We still link 23 out of 26 retailers in the US. I get it is frustrating for some people, and I'm just asking you to be patient with us during a period when essential goods are more important.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "first build, advice would be great."

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Key resellers are not permitted. Recommending, suggesting, advising, encouraging, hinting, or in any way implying these keys as a solution or option is not allowed on this site.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

We do still list buy links from retailers that don't also ship essential goods. In the US, that's 23 out of 26 retailers, so I think it's a modest amount. Some of those retailers, particularly Newegg and B&H, offer pretty substantial selections. Across all the countries we support, we've removed buy links from 12 out of 163 retailers. Some countries may be disproportionately affected when there aren't many retailers to choose from.

I think that if people come here who need computer hardware for essential tasks and can't find it, they'll go to the retailers direct. I don't think there are many people who, if they truly need hardware for essential work, would give up completely if they couldn't find it here. All that being said, the biggest demographic here is people into PC gaming and not essential business/research needs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 6 days ago
  • -2 points

You're right - it was condescending. I'm sorry - I was frustrated and the situation overall has been one that I haven't handled particularly well. I've deleted my comment.

I recognize that retailers could do this if they wanted. Some are. But I still have a choice in what my website chooses to do. I'd like to contribute how I can, and I've got very few levers to pull to make a difference. This is one of them, and I understand that not everyone will agree with it.

Comment reply on Ex0ticButterz8's Completed Build: First PC Build

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I Complain? COVID-19 Issue"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

I went all out in a comment or 2 because I assumed that Staff will not tolerate long off topic discuss

This topic that we're both replying to is in the off-topic forum. There's no restriction on going off topic as long as you keep it civil.

And I wasn't asking you to make it clear when over generalizing. I specifically stated:

"If you want to continue in polar extremes, calling people naive, etc, then yes, I'll remove the whole comment thread. If you want to be civil and engage in legitimate discourse, then no."

I have empathy in abundance, which is why I tend to get... emotional.

No, that's just being emotional. And emotional or not, there is no place for attacking people here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I Complain? COVID-19 Issue"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Don't you think that reality check is more important than hurting some1s feelings just little bit?

When you make broad generalizations about the other side, call them naive, etc, do you think they're really going to listen to you? I'll wager that they don't. You don't usually persuade people by attacking them. When you attack others, they'll often shut down any ability to listen to your points, no matter how compelling they are. They'll harden up their stance and view you as an attacker.

If you really want to influence people, you'll be better off coming alongside them, listening to what they're saying, identifying their concerns and needs, and then communicating how those are best met. If you want to disagree, focus the disagreements on the tangible things they're disputing - discuss facts, policies, etc. Kindness, empathy, and discussing hard facts will get you much further than over-generalizing their character and position.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I Complain? COVID-19 Issue"

  • 9 days ago
  • 2 points

If you want to continue in polar extremes, calling people naive, etc, then yes, I'll remove the whole comment thread. If you want to be civil and engage in legitimate discourse, then no.

Comment reply on SoVerySMOOSE's Completed Build: The Absolute Unit

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Comments like this will not be tolerated on our site.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 13 days ago
  • 2 points

When shelter-in-place and quarantine orders went into place, our traffic and referred sales went up. Non-trivially. People who ordinarily worked from an office suddenly needed a monitor, keyboard, etc to more efficiently work from home. That showed up in our numbers. And since we list multiple countries, we could see the effect as each country independently did it's own lockdown routine, days or weeks apart.

The goal is to do our small part in letting retailers that can ship essentials ship essentials without PC hardware making things worse. And letting retailers that don't ship essentials but do ship PC hardware continue to do so if they want. If hardware-specific retailers choose to shut things down or need to slow down, we can add them to the list (and I already did that to one this morning, and am about to do it to one more this afternoon).

What we can all do right now to help is to not hoard stuff and not order stuff that we don't truly need.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 13 days ago
  • 0 points

If the other retailers we list start selling or shipping essential goods, then we'll remove links for them too. There are still people using our site to purchase computer goods so they can work from home.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Some items are grayed for the buy, even though they are in stock."

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

That's correct - we've removed those links for now.

In a nutshell, we're trying to do our part to prioritize essential items for the COVID-19 situation. We've removed retailer links for products at retailers that also sell/distribute essential items. By not linking them right now, our intent is to reduce any logistical burden that shipping PC hardware might introduce - even if our referrals are a tiny fraction of overall shipping volume.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Workstation build"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

There’s no need to save it to share it. For a regular part list they just need to share the part list permalink (at the top of the part list).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time Gaming Build - Any suggestion appreciated."

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

If I tell you the rule that X isn't allowed here, and your response is that X is fine, then yes, your response will be deleted. If you can't follow the site rules then you won't be allowed to post here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time Gaming Build - Any suggestion appreciated."

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

If it’s against the site rules, then no.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time Gaming Build - Any suggestion appreciated."

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

Stop. I've told you the rules here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time Gaming Build - Any suggestion appreciated."

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

Advocating running windows unlicensed is not allowed here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time Gaming Build - Any suggestion appreciated."

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

Use of Windows must be done with a legitimate product key.

Per Microsoft:

You are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method.

For more information please see: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does anyone know what comment karma is?"

  • 26 days ago
  • 7 points

It's just unicode.

Comment reply on dattemayo's Completed Build: MAYO NCASE M1

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

I'm blocking this build. Do not deliberately form words to bypass the profanity filter. Your participation in this site requires following the use code of conduct, specifically:

Don’t circumvent the profanity filter or use excessive profanity. We get that some people communicate using profanity, and others prefer not to see any at all. That’s why there’s a user-configurable profanity filter. Respect it - if you want to use profanity and want to see it, do so by turning off your filter. Don’t circumvent the filter on purpose - there may be other people who have their filter on on purpose and don’t care to see it

Comment reply on Redline25's Completed Build: First Build

  • 27 days ago
  • 1 point

You're commenting on a completed build. The parts have already been purchased and the build has already been assembled. If you'd like to provide alternative part suggestions, please do so in our part list opinions wanted forum.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it possible to sue China for the corona virus?"

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

If your comments are being deleted by staff, it’s because the comment doesn’t adhere to the site terms of service or use code of conduct.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it possible to sue China for the corona virus?"

  • 28 days ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, don’t do that. That’s abusing the system.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it possible to sue China for the corona virus?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 7 points

There are plenty of places that will entertain absurd conspiracy theories. If you want to engage in that, go there. Don't bring that garbage here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it possible to sue China for the corona virus?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 5 points

Comments like this will not be tolerated on our site.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it possible to sue China for the corona virus?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 11 points

Sue them for what exactly?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Office PC for Small Business"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Comments like this are not appropriate for this site.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need opinion"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Comment reply on Jacksonkc23's Completed Build: First costume build

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Last warning about windows. Stop.

Comment reply on jbruno415's Completed Build: My recently built toy

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Don't advocate running unlicensed windows or key resellers - whether implied or directly.

Comment reply on jbruno415's Completed Build: My recently built toy

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Add amazon.ae please"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

It looks like we're unable to support Amazon UAE right now. To support an Amazon locale, we have to be able to sign up for the associates program in that locale. For UAE, it appears you have to be in Saudi Arabia, UAE, or Egypt. So unfortunately that rules us out being US-based. If they loosen that restriction later then we'll definitely sign up.

Comment reply on Fullsome's Completed Build: Class B Monster: The "Shinyoku" Angel

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming PC Escape From Tarkov"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

This topic has been moved from "General > General Discussion" to "Systems > Part List Opinions Wanted".

Comment reply on SoulesReaper's Completed Build: Soules Reaper

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

Comment reply on ThePerfectNox's Completed Build: My Second Build

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Keep it polite or don't comment on this site.

Comment reply on SUPERHERCPLAYS's Completed Build: Superhercplays Dream Build- 9900K & 2080 ti

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Comments like this are not appropriate for this site.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 4 points

Our problem is generally with the behavior and not the person. So if someone gets banned and comes back and keeps at it, they'll get banned again whether we knew it was them or not. But if they come back and change their behavior because they realized what they were doing wasn't ok, that's a win. Or if they come back and begrudgingly act in a way that they don't get banned even though they don't like it or agree with it, that's also a win (for us).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Just someone who put us down as their employer when we aren't. It's happened once before too with someone else.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, no, I'm not in that generation.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I'm afraid I'm not in on that joke, so I don't understand.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 3 points

Care to expand on that?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How many staff are there?"

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I don't know who that is - we don't have anyone working for us in China.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "phillips corner"

  • 1 month ago
  • 9 points

I moved the topics over into general and deleted the forum. None of it was lost. I just haven't had the time or desire to post on it recently, so I figured I'd remove it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Just realized you can send PMs"

  • 1 month ago
  • 5 points

I looked up the commit history for it - the initial commits went in for it July 17, 2013. It looks like it went live a few days after that.

The site went without any comments, private messages, or forums for several years. Comments and voting initially rolled out just for completed builds, and then forums came after that. The slow rollout was probably a good thing, because when I rolled out comments there was no moderation support at all. They very quickly got hammered by spammers, so basic moderation tools went in with an emergency deploy. Since then we've developed some better tooling to handle that stuff.

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