The simple fact is that it is a better card with better performance. What is up for debate is that the increase is "marginal". What is also a simple fact is that the 1660 super is better price to performance. Why wouldn't you recommend something that is better value? Just so you can get closer to $750? Just tell people that you're under the budget which is good! They are essentially the same card. If I can overclock the STRIX model 1660ti and get 3% better performance, why wouldn't you recommend that instead of the cheapest 1660ti? You're getting more performance! Yeah, it's poor value for money, but hey it hits the "ideal price for this build" whatever that means. At least in that case you'd get better noice reduction.
No reviewer in their right mind recommends a 1660ti, and you shouldn't either. People are going to look at this and waste their money.
Yes but that only applies when you are out of the "good value" products IE the 2080ti is a level of performance nothing else can touch, so yeah it's poor value for money but you can't get that performance anywhere else. In this case, you get something basically identical for less money. If you want more performance, just step up to a 5700. No reason not to buy good price to performance, especially in this price range.
Objectively, the super gives you more frames per dollar.
There are several issues with this parts list: the case is terrible (acrylic side panel, punch out pcie slots, terrible airflow, the list goes on), not to mention there are much better options for a tiny bit more (Metallic Gear Neo Air was $56-65). Some rx 5700 XTs are terrible so you really shouldn't have a parametric filter for that. There are some B450 boards that support Ryzen 3000 chips out of the box, like the Tomahawk Max, which is $120 and a great board. Not sure how good whatever the bottom-of-the-barrel x570 is going to be.
Yeah I feel like a parametric filter for an rx 5700 or 5700xt is a bad idea. Watch any of hardware unboxed (techspot) reviews and you'll see there are some crap cards out there. People are looking to you for advice, not just that you can sort by lowest price. God forbid someone buys an Asus tuf and their gddr6 burns out in 2 months.
Not to mention that case is garbage - airflow looks terrible and it has punch out pcie slots
Get yourself a 1600 for $120 and use the spire cooler on th
R1 is actually an R5
Buy the case when it is $30-40.
Buy the Motherboard when it is less than $140, or if it is the last thing you buy, buy it at $140
Buy the power supply when it is $50 ish.
I really really like the way you routed those AIO tubes - don't think I've ever seen them done like that! Definitely makes the build look much better. Whole thing just seems real professional. Well done.
One thing that I just noticed is that one review I saw said that they designed the fans so that you don’t see the fan support struts on the back fan. Is it possible you have the back fan backwards?
It's between that and the Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi. Just a waiting game to see when they come on sale. Was thinking the Deepcool Gammaxx GT - great deal, especially with the extra fan combo on Amazon, but I just couldn't get on board with the aesthetic difference between the heatsink and the fans... oh well
What other ones did you consider?
That is very good news! I was looking at getting that cooler - but I have the p400s and I thought "Come on! Its just barely too big!" Now, I guess, I can get it! Thanks for the heads up!
The Phanteks P400 says on newegg that it has a CPU Cooler clearance of 160mm, and the MA410M is 165mm... how'd you fit in there and how much clearance do you actually have?
Yeah I've seen the benchmarks - that's why I plan on manually overclocking at some point. Thanks for the feedback! If I start playing modern AAA games I'm sure ill have to get more ram.
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70 bucks for a 360mm clc? Where the heck are you shopping? ha that is a steal. I agree the watercooler looks 10x better and it doesn't weigh down on the mobo. I haven't been able to find a clc that cheap, but I'll definitely keep my eyes out in future builds!
Hey man I ain't made of money - can't just get $500+ bucks for a 1080 in a week! Haha
A 240 or 280 mm CLC would look awesome in the case and would be the ideal configuration, but it wasn't in the budget and the air cooler works just fine. If we had gone CLC, probably would have grabbed the DeepCool Captain 240EX White to match the other white parts of the build.
I took a look at your phanteks build and your other builds too - awesome! Really really cool stuff there especially with the graphic art on the fallout builds and stormtrooper. You do that art yourself? How do you get it on there?
Totally! Looking for some other stuff that I could put in there. Only ideas I have other than some liquid cooling components is a graphics card (obvi). Any ideas?