You didn't actually link to your build, that URL links everybody to their own personal parts lists.
You need to go to the "system build" page and look for where it says 'permalink'. That's the URL you want to direct people to.
Lol @ "mid budget"
Depends, what kinds of games are you planning on playing when you build it and in the future?
You dont need such an expensive motherboard. Drop it and upgrade the PSU and video card:
I only included 8gb of RAM there so add more if you feel 16 is necessary. Also didn't include a case or optical drive
I suggested he get an i5 just because strategy games like Total War, Civilization, Starcraft 2, etc. are very reliant on CPU performance. I agree that he could build something with an i3 and get a better GPU for general gaming, but I just wanted to stress the importance of having a good cpu for strategy games.
Not to knock on your build or anything, from what've I seen you post on these forums you're helpful and very good at coming up with builds for others. And yes your right if the OP could open up his budget just a bit more, the 3570K would be his best option.
Ya that looks better. It will definitely run all the total war games with ease.
You may want to upgrade the graphics card in a few years but other than that it will probably last you a good while.
Nope, not at all it will work with everything else you picked, except if you pick a new haswell chip. You can tell if its haswell if the model starts with 4 (4xxx). Those would require a different mobo.
Considering your budget I would reccomend the 3350P: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53350p
The 'P' means it lacks integrated graphics but since you are getting a dedicated gpu it doesn't matter.
If an i5 is outside your budget don't worry about it too much just stick with the i3. But if you can afford a little more this is the upgrade I would make.
Get a cheaper motherboard. Here's a z77 board for cheaper:
Also, you could go with the H77 chipset for even cheaper and it will still suit your needs. The z77 chipset is mainly use by overclockers.
Also, why 4 sticks of 2gb instead of 2 sticks of 4gb? Not a big deal, but I think the 2x4gb would be a couple bucks cheaper.
Other than that it's a pretty good budget build. Just keep in mind though, strategy games are typically very reliant on your cpu especially the ones that have a lot of units in the game at once. So if you are putting anymore money into this the first thing I would do is bump up to an i5.
Kinda hard to come up with a formula for prices, you have to look at each part individually and pick what makes sense. I could combine a $200 dollar CPU (eg an i5 3570k) and a $400 GPU (a gtx 670) and the build would still be 'balanced'
This looks pretty good to me. Only two suggestions: get 2 4GB sticks of RAM instead of one 8GB to enable dual channel memory, and drop the sound card unless you know for sure that you need. The integrated sound on the motherboard is good enough for most people.
Your right, a good cpu is very important for starcraft 2. Unfortunately the game is only optimized for 2 cores, even with my i5 3570k (stock clock speed) I still expirence slow downs during custom arcade maps that have a lot of units in play. The 4670k is currently the best gaming cpu but if you want the best performance possible in starcraft 2 you will need to add a CPU cooler and overclock your cpu.
I don't know if you could save a bit by getting a 3570k instead of the 4670k as it looks like your getting a great deal on the haswell chip already. Other than that I don't see any obvious ways to cut the price down without picking some weaker components.
Also do you have a hard drive? You might run out of space on that SSD fairly quickly.
It depends on what games you are going to be playing, but a gtx 660 should be fine for 1080p gaming for several years in my opinion. Bump up to a 760 if you feel you like you can afford it, but a 660 is still a great card for now.
Ya no problem man. Good luck with your studies!
One small thing: you picked a CPU with a locked multiplier but the z77 chipset is for overclocking. I'd suggest switching to an h77 mobo to save a bit of money or get an 3570k to enable overclocking.
You'll get mixed opinions but I would stick with ivy. Haswell has a bit of performance boost but not enough to really be significant in my opinion and I have heard that it doesn't overclock as well as ivy. One advantage is the mobo might last longer being a new socket and all, but there's no guarantee that intel will even stick with lga 1150 so idk.
For the mouse thing I have know idea.
It looks good, but use the rest of the room the in your budget for a better graphics card
IMO, yes the setup you have now is better. You should be able overclock the 8320 to above 4ghz easily. The 8350 might be able to overclock a bit higher than 8320 but it really comes down to the luck of the "silicon lottery"
Looks good to me :)
If you could bump up to a 770 for less than $50 (like 30 pounds? No idea) I would consider it. Otherwise stick with 670.
Could get a 600-700W corsair builder series for around $60-$70 CDN. For a modular PSU the rosewill Hize series 650W seems like a pretty good deal. Nothing wrong with the one you picked though, it's on the expensive side but seasonic makes good quality power supplies.
Your build looks pretty solid though. Just make sure you add a CPU cooler if you decide to overclock down the road. Also I might consider dropping to a 7950 and picking up a SSD to install windows on. Obviously this is a trade off though, you can't really go wrong either way.
One thing that sticks out is the CPU. I would reccomend an i7 3770k over the 3820. The 3820 has faster stock speeds but is not unlocked and can't be overclocked. You may also be perfectly fine with an i5, only go for the i7 if you know for sure that multithreaded performance is necessary. An i5 works equally as well as an i7 for gaming at the present. Ultimately it's up to you how much you want to spend and an i7 may be more "future proof".
Also what year of CS? I'm a fellow CS major (just completed 3rd year) and I can tell you I've never used over 8gb of RAM in my projects so far. That being said, larger projects will of course benefit from extra RAM but you could always get 8gigs now and add more later quite easily if you need it.
EDIT: forgot to add, if you can afford to get a small SSD as well I really reccomend you do so. Having windows installed on an SSD makes it boot ridiculously quick and everything just feels a bit snappier.
I'd go for a 780 if your willin to spend that much. I normally don't recommend the super high end cards but since you want to game 1440p with dual monitors you might appreciate the extra performance.
Between the 7970 and the 770 it's a toss up. For either of those I'd just go for whichever one you can get a better deal on.
One last small suggestion
If your comfortable with overclocking you could save ~$20 by getting an fx-6300 and overclocking it to the same level as a 6350.
If your sticking with stock settings still get the 6350.
You need a higher wattage PSU. Other then that it's an awesome build.
You shouldn't have a problem running most games on ultra @ 1080p EXCEPT on CPU limited games you might have some trouble, could be bothersome if you mostly play strategy games. But, like you said, going intel will push you over budget and that CPU should be strong enough for the majority of games out there.
eh.... you got me thinking and i did some looking online today. Turns out the SSD i was orignally looking at was a samsung 840 series (no pro). The 840 pro looks a bit better than the one i got. No big deal though
You're talking about the Samsung 128 gb SSD right? It actually was my original choice and I was about to buy it until the salesman recommended the force gs. The price was $30 more for the same size drive but he showed me the specs and the write speed on the force is significantly faster. I did check the specs myself just to confirm. Note that the bigger Samsung drives, such as the 256 gb model, have faster write speeds then the 128 gb version.
EDIT: The corsair was $20 more at memory express, but I was going to price match the samsung with a ncix.com sale price of $99.99, making the total difference $30
Yep your right I will need better fans/heatsinks if i want to OC. But for now every game ive wanted to play has been running at 60 fps. I wasn't planning on overclocking right away, i just wanted to keep the option open if i decide to later on down the road.
That SSD has almost as fast of a write speed as read speed, look at the specs...
A 430W? I'd rather be on the safe side and make sure I have enough power. And i would just end up having to upgrade the PSU to make any other significant upgrades. Bad idea IMO
I wanted to man but the main 24 pin cable and the 8 pin cpu cable are so big and stiff. I was in a rush as well, really excited to get it running haha. Im gonna have to take an hour later today to open it up and try and manage the cables better.
The GPU and RAM, yeah I could've gone cheaper. The 7970 is better price/performance, I picked the 670 cause I prefer nVidia cards. The 7970 beating the 680 is debatable, its better in some games, in others its not. And it is about $20-$50 more than the 670 from what I've seen around here. The RAM i couldve got around $10 cheaper for sure.
I was gonna get the HX650 for $129.99 but I found I could get the 750 for the same price so I did.
I picked the case cause HAF 912 doesn't have USB 3.0 on the front, 922 does. Now is that worth $40, ehh i dunno but its too late now haha.
Don't know about the SSD, booting windows and just using it all around is really fast and crisp, but Ive never used a good computer without an SSD to really compare it too.
I will do that, thanks for the tip :)